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July 02, 2024, 02:09:07 PM
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Duffy1470

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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #150 on: July 02, 2024, 02:09:07 PM »
Thank you gentlemen for the input. Much appreciated. Speaking of the aluminum backing plate, is that what you did for your c9nsole, t-tops etc, imbed a alumin7m in the stringers in the appropriate location then screw into it. Seems like I saw a thread where someone tapped that plate and I think umechem(?) Glassed a piece of sacrificial wood down. Any opinions?

Finally cut the transom down. Set a fence up along front and back of transom at the proper depth to keep from screwing it up.  Then used the grinder to remove the inch of extra material. Worked well. Will finish glassing transom now. Hopefully over  4th of July. Speaking of which I hope all of you have a wonderful 4th remembering we are a bright and can be a brighter shining light on a hill.

July 02, 2024, 02:32:27 PM
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« Reply #151 on: July 02, 2024, 02:32:27 PM »
Another question.  As a kid, I used to fish out of a 222, took it 20 miles offshore regularly,  and we would hang it from a lift from the bow cleat and the stern eyes (what are they called?). I still have the original bow cleat for this boat and it's threaded on the underside, I assume for a piece of stainless all thread.  Do any of you know what all that set up looked like.  I would like to put it back that way to be able to hang it (not going to hang it but want to be able to). If you can hang your boat in the air from your bow cleat, what kind of a brick poop house is that?

July 02, 2024, 05:38:02 PM
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« Reply #152 on: July 02, 2024, 05:38:02 PM »
Another layer of 1708. Slow and steady gets the crab.

July 02, 2024, 05:45:30 PM
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« Reply #153 on: July 02, 2024, 05:45:30 PM »
Also, here are the stringer sections side by s8de. You can see the one has a wrinkle in it from the plastic and the other is straight. Thinking about making a third and using the wavy one for a cross member.

July 02, 2024, 07:51:52 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #154 on: July 02, 2024, 07:51:52 PM »
Back at it. Stringers look good! You’re looking for a bow lifting eye assembly. Google will be your friend when it comes to brainstorming hardware. :)
1974' 240 CC - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15975.0
1970’ Flatback 222 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15666.0
1981’ Osprey 22-2 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15249.0
1971’ Flatback 222 - SOLD
1972' 240 Seahunter - SOLD

July 02, 2024, 08:42:30 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #155 on: July 02, 2024, 08:42:30 PM »
Got it. I will give it a look. Thanks

July 04, 2024, 06:46:32 PM
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« Reply #156 on: July 04, 2024, 06:46:32 PM »
Ulysses, Googled the bow lifting assembly. Thank you.

Have at least one more layer of glass for transom, probably 2. Have some questions about building up the keel area. In the Pic withe Coosa straps laying next to keel, you can really see the ridiculous bow in it. My plan was to glue Coosa next to keel with thickened poly then lay glass 9ver the whole thing.  In front of the Coosa I was going to make a bunch of Coosa squares like the balsa that came out of there so it will conform to curvature of the hull. Is this a bad idea, especially the laying glass over the whole thing?

July 04, 2024, 06:48:04 PM
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« Reply #157 on: July 04, 2024, 06:48:04 PM »
Here's transom

July 04, 2024, 06:56:49 PM
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« Reply #158 on: July 04, 2024, 06:56:49 PM »
In terms of "glassing over whole thing", think down from top of one stringer, across the center keel, then up the other stringer. I have 25 inch wide 1708 so probably 6 to 8 overlapping pieces. The majority of it is ground already.  It would take a lot of thickened epoxy to fill in gaps and voids but I am leaning this way. Looking for input. Thanks everyone.

July 04, 2024, 07:09:17 PM
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« Reply #159 on: July 04, 2024, 07:09:17 PM »
Artist rendering

July 05, 2024, 05:17:38 AM
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« Reply #160 on: July 05, 2024, 05:17:38 AM »
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July 05, 2024, 05:29:36 AM
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« Reply #161 on: July 05, 2024, 05:29:36 AM »
In terms of "glassing over whole thing", think down from top of one stringer, across the center keel, then up the other stringer. I have 25 inch wide 1708 so probably 6 to 8 overlapping pieces. The majority of it is ground already.  It would take a lot of thickened epoxy to fill in gaps and voids but I am leaning this way. Looking for input. Thanks everyone.
I don't think you need to glass in the hull bottom. I would tack in the bottoms of the new stringer with some thickened resin, then lay in a good fillet along the bottom of each side - I used a homemade wooden spoon type spreader that I ground to make the radius I needed. I used big paint stir sticks and rounded them off.
You can purchase 1708 cloth "tape" in various widths or you can cut the cloth you have into tape. After you have laid in the fillets and let them kick off, I would just use tape to attach the stringers to the hull. Lay in a 3" wide piece of tape (1.5" on stringer and 1.5" on hull bottom, then while still wet, lay a 6" piece of tape over that followed by a 9" piece of tape. When that hardens, that is all you need.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

July 05, 2024, 08:04:31 AM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #162 on: July 05, 2024, 08:04:31 AM »
Would you scrap the Coosa core idea. What you are suggesting is way easier and that is very appealing. It was 102 here yesterday. Nothing more to say, less is better. I'm afraid to stop working on this. Possessed right now and don't want to lose it.

July 05, 2024, 10:25:50 AM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #163 on: July 05, 2024, 10:25:50 AM »
It's rainy and 80% humidity. That too much? I laminate in my barn but still humid as all get out. Using polyester and no info available on Google. Lots of 8nfo on epoxy but not poly

July 05, 2024, 10:27:11 AM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #164 on: July 05, 2024, 10:27:11 AM »
Duffy, have you checked to see that the keel stringer is not rotted? Typically I think I've seen that its been removed and replaced because they get waterlogged and rot. I think I have seen someone remove it all together. I wouldn't waste the coosa as you have shown but either glass right over the existing stuff or replace it with something of similar in size and shape and glass over as originally built.
1974' 240 CC - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15975.0
1970’ Flatback 222 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15666.0
1981’ Osprey 22-2 - https://classicaquasport.com/smf/index.php?topic=15249.0
1971’ Flatback 222 - SOLD
1972' 240 Seahunter - SOLD

 

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