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November 13, 2024, 06:22:03 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #435 on: November 13, 2024, 06:22:03 PM »
I think I am going to attach it to the hull and not the cap? Both maybe? Input would be appreciated. Anything that comes to everyone's mind. No bad ideas.

November 14, 2024, 06:07:50 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #436 on: November 14, 2024, 06:07:50 PM »
Deck section and hatch complete...ish.  front anchor locker bulkhead cut out.


November 19, 2024, 08:05:49 AM
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« Reply #437 on: November 19, 2024, 08:05:49 AM »
Anchor hanger. Putty all the corners smooth, then tape the whole thing. I don't have a great feeling about this one.

November 19, 2024, 11:38:44 AM
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« Reply #438 on: November 19, 2024, 11:38:44 AM »
Lots of corners, crevices, tight spots to try and glass there. I've never had much luck with wood longevity in these situations unless each part was coated, glassed, then assembled.
Is that 1x4 going to stay as part of the permanent build? Looks like its yellow pine? If so might want to rethink that, probably won't last long. Spruce or Hickory would be better water resistant.

November 20, 2024, 07:09:32 AM
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« Reply #439 on: November 20, 2024, 07:09:32 AM »
The wood will not be part of it. I am going to put packing tape all over the wood and use it as a mold. The wings on the side will be where the anchor hangs from.

November 20, 2024, 08:10:07 PM
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« Reply #440 on: November 20, 2024, 08:10:07 PM »
Hopefully I can get the mold out of it

November 21, 2024, 05:17:05 AM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #441 on: November 21, 2024, 05:17:05 AM »
You might have to destroy the mold to get everything released. Looks good though.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

November 21, 2024, 07:54:36 AM
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« Reply #442 on: November 21, 2024, 07:54:36 AM »
Mold destruction was the plan. The last lamination on the anchor locker bulkhead got a bunch of brown streaks in it that follow the glass filaments that don't want to cure. It was rainy and 80 + % humidity the day this was lam'd. Is this a humidity failure? Any 8nsight as to what I did wrong?

November 21, 2024, 08:01:05 AM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #443 on: November 21, 2024, 08:01:05 AM »
Was glad to see you post again Rick. Was a minute since your last one.  Hope you are well.  Classic aquasport is the first forum I participated since the 90s. Don't really know how to act online. Surely well Wishing is fine.

November 21, 2024, 08:03:16 AM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #444 on: November 21, 2024, 08:03:16 AM »
Who am I kidding? I don't know how to act in person either.

November 21, 2024, 02:59:22 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #445 on: November 21, 2024, 02:59:22 PM »
Was glad to see you post again Rick. Was a minute since your last one.  Hope you are well.  Classic aquasport is the first forum I participated since the 90s. Don't really know how to act online. Surely well Wishing is fine.
I am fine, thanx for the checkin. I don't want to stifle the other members that have other viewpoints and experiences. The more the merrier.
I am glad to see you getting better at looking at things in the negative aspect, meaning so you can see molds in your mind. It's not an easy thing to do.

As for the streaks in the cloth - the more important thing is that it didn't harden. That's a concern.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

November 21, 2024, 05:50:08 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #446 on: November 21, 2024, 05:50:08 PM »
It got colder and I haven't adjusted the MEK amount. Perhaps that's it.

November 22, 2024, 05:41:27 AM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #447 on: November 22, 2024, 05:41:27 AM »
You really have to make sure you mix the poly and hardener very well. Scrape the edges and bottom of the mixing tub and then mix, mix, mix all the while watching your time. That's why I like epoxy - more time to mix and apply.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

November 22, 2024, 07:40:31 AM
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« Reply #448 on: November 22, 2024, 07:40:31 AM »
It also started with a new bucket of poly. Do you sometimes get a bad batch?

November 22, 2024, 04:43:55 PM
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« Reply #449 on: November 22, 2024, 04:43:55 PM »
Poly starts hardening as soon as it's produced.  Distributors buy in 55 gal drums and resell at smaller batches. Once the drum is open and air gets to the poly it's just a matter of time before the drum is hard as a rock and full of crystals. If you want real structural strength epoxy is something like 200 times stronger. You get slow, medium or fast hardener and with slow, you might get a day or more of working time. Medium is normally an hour or more of working time depending on the temp. Just don't leave it in the bucket too long.
https://www.uscomposites.com/kk121.html is a decent place to buy from and they ship all over, but the freight is expensive due to weight.  They are in Ft Lauderdale FL. Check out what they have and compare to your source.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

 


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