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November 29, 2013, 09:51:01 AM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #210 on: November 29, 2013, 09:51:01 AM »
Sorry Craig, I've only had 1 boat here with a Porta bracket, and since it was already installed, I didn't pay much attention to it...


Corner of 520 and A1A...

November 29, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #211 on: November 29, 2013, 11:27:20 AM »
No problem Bob!
Craig

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1967 22-2 Flatback (Rebuild in progress)

December 01, 2013, 05:54:21 PM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #212 on: December 01, 2013, 05:54:21 PM »
A porta bracket comes with backing plates just no nuts, washers and bolts
Keep in mind the where the deck hits the transom in correspondence to where the lower bolts need to go for optimum performance of the bracket.
Mine is mounted so it's parallel at running height and water pick ups are just underwater when all the way up at idle.
When ordering your bracket they will ask you for transom measurements
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December 13, 2013, 05:29:25 PM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #213 on: December 13, 2013, 05:29:25 PM »
Man you are hauling the mail on your rebuild. I can not believe how much you have completed already. Looks good too, thinking about sandbagging a little so I can steal some ideas  :D
Ive never met an alligator I didnt want to turn into a wallet and side of nuggets.

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December 13, 2013, 10:44:10 PM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #214 on: December 13, 2013, 10:44:10 PM »
Thanks Ryan, steal away!  That's how I got most of my ideas!
Craig

2002 205 Osprey, 200 HP Yamaha OX66


1967 22-2 Flatback (Rebuild in progress)

December 14, 2013, 08:25:56 AM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #215 on: December 14, 2013, 08:25:56 AM »
I think that is how most of us get our ideas!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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December 14, 2013, 05:40:09 PM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #216 on: December 14, 2013, 05:40:09 PM »
Yup, if not here, somewhere else  :mrgreen:
Rick
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December 15, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #217 on: December 15, 2013, 12:50:10 PM »
Craig, how are those doors coming along? Did ya get them figured out?
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December 15, 2013, 06:27:55 PM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #218 on: December 15, 2013, 06:27:55 PM »
Did you get the foaming done?
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

December 16, 2013, 05:56:18 AM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #219 on: December 16, 2013, 05:56:18 AM »
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Craig, how are those doors coming along? Did ya get them figured out?

Sorry I haven't posted pics or an update on the doors.  I'll try to do so tonight, but in short they didn't turn out quite as bad as I was expecting, but they are definitely not perfect.  Hopefully they are salvagable....
Craig

2002 205 Osprey, 200 HP Yamaha OX66


1967 22-2 Flatback (Rebuild in progress)

December 16, 2013, 06:02:49 AM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #220 on: December 16, 2013, 06:02:49 AM »
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Did you get the foaming done?

Not exactly.  I spent Friday making a run to FGCI in St. Pete to pick up enough Nidacore to finish my deck, as well as a few other supplies.  I also picked up a 1/2 gallon 2# foam kit for the center stringer forward of the fuel tank (will not be supporting the deck, so I opted for the less-dense foam (my stringers are not as beefy as yours)).  I did pour that Friday afternoon.  Then Saturday was soccer day with the kids, and Sunday was a birthday party in Spring Hill.  Just not enough time in the week, especially with it getting dark so early.
Craig

2002 205 Osprey, 200 HP Yamaha OX66


1967 22-2 Flatback (Rebuild in progress)

December 16, 2013, 06:15:29 AM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #221 on: December 16, 2013, 06:15:29 AM »
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Sorry I haven't posted pics or an update on the doors.  I'll try to do so tonight, but in short they didn't turn out quite as bad as I was expecting, but they are definitely not perfect.  Hopefully they are salvagable....

I'm sure they are. :cheers:  My livewell shell didn't exactly meet my expectations, but a little elbow grease and all is right in the world. I hope you post pics, but then again I have said I would post pics and not gotten  around to it also. :roll:  :oops:
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December 16, 2013, 08:34:25 PM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #222 on: December 16, 2013, 08:34:25 PM »
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Sorry I haven't posted pics or an update on the doors.  I'll try to do so tonight, but in short they didn't turn out quite as bad as I was expecting, but they are definitely not perfect.  Hopefully they are salvagable....

I'm sure they are. :cheers:  My livewell shell didn't exactly meet my expectations, but a little elbow grease and all is right in the world. I hope you post pics, but then again I have said I would post pics and not gotten  around to it also. :roll:  :oops:

Ok, so here are some pics of the doors.  If you recall, I made a 2-sided form, so two symmetric doors were made before I broke down the mold and got a look at the product.  I did try to use air to pop them out of the mold without disassembling it, but due to no taper and more stickiness on the bondo than expected, that wasn't happening.

After waxing, spraying PVA, and then gel coat, my initial plan was to lay in 3/4 oz mat, 1708, 1/2" nidacore, fill the gap around the edges of the nidacore with thickened resin, then a layer of 1708, and fold the mat and first layer of 1708 over the nidacore and second layer of 1708, all before the resin kicked.  This was fairly challenging and I feared that I might end up with voids along the front edges.  So the second side I just made a "shell" with the gel coat, 3/4 oz mat, and 1708.  I still need to level the inside surface, glue in the nidacore, and add a layer of 1708.

Here is the first door.  I tapped lightly along the edges and it sounds solid, so hopefully no voids.


And here is the second


Notice the crappy edges.  I think this is called "alligatoring"


I believe that is due to the gel coat on the edges being too thin.  I used brushable gel coat, but I couldn't get it to hang on the vertical surfaces of the mold very well.  Ended up doing a couple of coats, but obviously not enough.  I'm hoping this is repairable.
Craig

2002 205 Osprey, 200 HP Yamaha OX66


1967 22-2 Flatback (Rebuild in progress)

December 16, 2013, 08:40:51 PM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #223 on: December 16, 2013, 08:40:51 PM »
Here are the back sides of the doors




And here's the front sides of them together.  The curved top is pretty subtle - this is really the only way to see it.

Craig

2002 205 Osprey, 200 HP Yamaha OX66


1967 22-2 Flatback (Rebuild in progress)

December 16, 2013, 08:52:47 PM
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Re: Flatback Fireboat Rebuild
« Reply #224 on: December 16, 2013, 08:52:47 PM »
Not bad Craig. Look very solid.  :salut:
Is it what you wanted?
Rick
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1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

 


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