1978 CCP - time for some work

[wingtime]

Hey I think I saw the ad for that boat on Craigslist.  Looks like you have something to work with there....   What brand sandpaper are you gonna use?  I want to buy stock in that company!  

[fitz73222]

Hey Wingtime,

You will know this; I remember reading there is like 40,000 # of paint on a 747, you think this AS is close!

[ncrowe]

Hey Wingtime,

You will know this; I remember reading there is like 40,000 # of paint on a 747, you think this AS is close!

Well, I'm thinking a tad less - but still a whole lot more than needed...LOL

[ncrowe]

I've had two adults up in mine and you cant really tell they are up there. Mine is on top of the tee top. No Helm, just a spotter tower. I suggest you make it a folding tower to get under low bridges and that wayward telephone or CATV line that are notriously not 13' 6" off the ground when you trailer her. Everybody loves to ride up there when cruising or spotting Cobia.  I will admit, I'm not sure how it would be in 5 foot rolling sea across her beam but you pick you days!

Do you have a pic of your setup - would be greatly appreciated  

[ncrowe]

I just picked up a high five prop - going to test it out this weekend - hopefully it stays calm enough to do so - we have had some pretty windy days here in SW Florida this week.

I will keep you all posted for the results

Also - started the sanding project - not as difficult as I thought, but definitely time consuming - can't wait to start digging in

[RickK]

... we have had some pretty windy days here in SW Florida this week.

Really windy today in Sarasota - too windy to go camping on the 230 as I had planned - not only Small Craft Adv but also "Exercise Caution"s through Sat night :(
Good luck on the prop test  

[ncrowe]

High Five prop a keeper - 2000 yammi 200 - had a 14.5 x 17 on it prior, ran great but would over-rev if pushed hard - the high five is a 13.5 x 19 and i have to tell you - jumps out of the hole - takes the chop much better than before - and kept the motor from having to work hard - 4000 rpm gave me 34 mph (vs 30 mph before) - pull it back to an easy 3000 rpm and I'm doing 25mph - the sweet spot seems to be around 3500 rpm and 30 mph - motor quiets down and reminds me of my 4 strokes on the edgewater 265. I have no idea of fuel burn numbers as I don't have the fuel flow meter on the boat, but has to better than before - especially given I could keep the boat on plane at much lower rpm.

I didn't really get to play with top mph as my trim button on the shifter decided to start giving me trouble today - goes down fine, but sparatically goes up - have to fiddle with it a little - I did hit 43 mph at 5200 rpm - wouldn't really spin any higher as I had the motor trimmed down and it wouldn't trim back up - so the bow was plowing - I figure I could add another 300 - 500 rpm and another 5 mph with the boat trimmed right - we'll see - I'll order the part this week and play some more.

I did get started on sanding this mess out - did the gunnel on Starboard side - hit with 60 grit on the orbital - came out nice - I figure I can work my way up to 220 it should look good - I'll decide whether to go with gelcoat or brightside or a 2 part (probably perfection) - my neighbor used brightside on his 16 footer and said it was really nice to work with - held up great - and he rolled and tipped it - looked like it had been sprayed - any comments on brightside?

[ncrowe]

Relocated the fuel filter to inside the hull - mounted it to transom - put a hatch there , but don't like the look of the hatch - will do fine for now though - and it'll keep the sun off more of the fuel line (I'm going to move primer bulb in there too when I get some more fuel hose.

Noticed I have a bow in the transom as others have had, transom is solid, no movement at all, but still giving me my excuse to close in transom and add bracket - will plan on doing it a little later in the season, would like to get through the summer as is for now.

Also pulled out top part of splashwell, I am seeing just how much space I'm going to gain once it's all out

[ncrowe]

SO here are the pics of th progress so far -

What it looked like before

Close up

Now what it looks like now

[ncrowe]

Different angles

Before


After


Now I know the hatch is HUGE for where it is, but the access is now excellent, and when I close in the transom - it won't matter anyways.....

[ncrowe]

Here's a pic of the bow



Point A measures 3/16" and Point B measures 5/16" - so there is a bow of 1/8" - not too bad and I'm sure not any cause for immediate concern - any thoughts?

[ncrowe]

I need some feedback about this - looks worse than I thought (or am I crazy?) - seems solid, but don't want to take any chances





The total amount of the bow is 1/2" - anyone have any idea of how bad that is?

[fitz73222]

It is quite amazing how bad a transom can get and still support the engine and thrust. Someone has already added the plate to yours to help stiffen her up. My 73' with twin 115`s is no exception and with original transom. Once you get her all rubbed out and working, take her out and see how much the engine moves while underway. My transom breathes about 3/8"-1/2" of an inch in heavy chop with both engines tucked in. I have no visible cracking really anywhere around the transom connection points or cap; just a little spider webbing here and there. Unless that engine is really moving around and you have lots of cracking; run with it and avoid the Monte Carlo starts and she will be fine.

[jdupree]

Bought my 222 CCP with the same "bow" that you have.  Mine didn't have any kind of bracket installed.  If it were me, I would pull the motor off along with the support plate and see what you have.  That will give you a chance also to have a stronger bracket made as well as to determining where the water intrusion might be.  That looks to be a big "bow" even with the support plate.

Take a look at my thread and you can see what my friend Mike had made for me.  It appears to have removed 95% of the "bow" out and we are not seeing any movement now.  It is safe to say that we are both looking at a transom somewhere down the line.  Here is what we did for mine.

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[ncrowe]

Started with electrical today - what a mess - luckily the boat didn't catch fire....... the PO had the Portside battery POS bridged to the Starboard NEG - WHOA!!!! Had the starter POS direct to Portside POS and used NEG side as the switch (perco) - it worked, not sure how - most of the connections and splices are done with twist caps (residential) and a $h!t load of silicone - I'm going to redo everything in the bilge and running from the console (new batt location).

I'll take pics and post the rewire - should be all done by Sunday - weather has been crappy this week so I'll have the time

PS - found my transducer wire had cuts it it - can I splice it??? looks to be about 5 wires in the sheath, a few had been cut through - any help would be great