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February 26, 2011, 07:17:02 PM
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ncrowe

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1978 CCP - time for some work
« on: February 26, 2011, 07:17:02 PM »
Hello all - have a 78 ccp 222 - overall great boat - can't complain - got it for a song....BUT - cosmetically this poor boat is a disaster - previous owner tried to re-gelcoat with a roller - and as far as I can tell - no duratec  :shock: so it is a little - um -  :scratch: - see pics

Tank was changed in 2002 - floor was redone then - not the best work - but solid - no rattles, no water intrusion, actually this boat is by far the driest I have ever owned, and I have had a new edgewater 265 ex, and new 23 concept - both would dump at least a gallon of water when back on the trailer, this boat, bone dry even after a hard day in slop

February 26, 2011, 07:29:00 PM
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February 26, 2011, 07:33:50 PM
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2011, 07:33:50 PM »
Okay - figured out how to upload pics - DANG that was easier than I thought -

here are a few more


Here's the console when I got it - pieced together grab rail (jb weld) and a spider web cracked windshield which might as well been pained solid black - couldn't see anything through it...LOL... but did keep the wind off my face


Here you can see the floor patched from when the tank was done - solid but lumpy, sloppy, the tank was sealed with tar on the exterior (I think) and the previous owner did not put a filler hose on the tank - instead - an access hatch and unscrew a plug - fillerup  :shock:  - simple and effective

February 26, 2011, 07:37:32 PM
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 07:37:32 PM »

Look carefully - you can see my access hole to fillerup...LOL... and a fiberglass leaning post - solid alright, but no cushion for my butt  :cry:


Missing teak door up front, teak inserts for the cubby space near the bow - missing the grab bars for the bow - not much to complain about when the boat runs as well as it does

I have some nice covers for the console and the engine - so that was good

February 26, 2011, 07:44:07 PM
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 07:44:07 PM »
Has a unique leaning post on her  :thumright:
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February 26, 2011, 07:44:27 PM
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 07:44:27 PM »
So - my plan is to collect all my parts I am going to use for the rebuild and then go to town on it over a few weeks and get it done.

I want to replace the floor - remove the splashwell and just go with level floor to transom
Add a livewell leaning post
new center console and tower
I have a 120 gal tank that I might add to the boat (Does anyone know if it'll fit?)
reinstall the fill tubes for the tank
move the batteries under the console
get a bow dodger
new rubrail
paint the hull - thinking of gelcoat with duratec - I hear it's not that hard to do and I definitely want the bottom of the hull to be the same color as the sides - thinking a seafoam green - some sort of blueish - greenish pastel
Keeping the coffin - I love that thing - so does my wife - so does my boy - just going to pull it apart and regelcoat and try to insulate it better to become a proper cooler up front and dry storage/fishbox if needed

I'm going to post questions in next post - need some advice

February 26, 2011, 07:46:55 PM
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 07:46:55 PM »
Quote from: "RickK"
Has a unique leaning post on her  :thumright:

certainly does - very practical, but not so comfortable - can get cooler underneath and have room for all my gear in it - no rod holders though

February 26, 2011, 07:53:06 PM
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 07:53:06 PM »
So here are a few questions -

Anyone removed the splashwell on this hull and moved batteries forward? Can anyone who has done this share pics - I want to add the livewell/leaning post with 50 gal livewell - I figure it weighs about the same as the material I would remove from the splashwell - and when moving batteries under console - the added weight of the water in the livewell should balance out and leave me sitting the same in the water (hopefully)

towers on ccps? anyone have one to show off? should I add a bracket for the weich or not bother......

I'm going to go with coosa for the floor - I think - wood is cheaper for sure and will last just as long if done right - any thoughts?

Anyone added a bigger tank to one of these hulls? What can I expect for room under there?

Thanks for all the help - I am going to take a few pics of the boat now - and some detailed pics of what I am talking about with the tank - the floor - some of the paint issues, etc

February 27, 2011, 07:24:13 AM
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2011, 07:24:13 AM »
At least one member is/has removed the OEM splash well. I don't know if he has photos or not. (paging Keith K.)

I moved (as others have) the batteries forward, under the center console. No pics but not very hard.

There is a cavern under the coffin box. Adding a larger tank would only require creating a platform for same. The OEM tub is too small if I remember correctly. There was room aft of the stock (85 gal) tank but I don't think a 120 would fit. I'm often wrong though. You just need to measure. Plenty of room forward and if replacing the deck, it will be wide open.

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February 27, 2011, 07:03:43 PM
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Re: 1978 CCP - time for some work
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2011, 07:03:43 PM »
Decided to take a few pics to show all what I am dealing with....

This gives a good idea of what I am dealing with - slapped on gelcoat with a roller


OH-RAGE peel galore...LOL....


I was told "even has the original rubrails" - he taped them up to protect them when the gelcoat was done  :roll:


Here you can see the attention to detail when it came to the splashwell - one of the reasons I want to cut it out


Excellent tape work - along with the plentyful use of silicone and sealant to prevent any water intrusion (also prevents any idea of which wire is which and where they go, etc, etc)



he did tape the trim tabs very well - can even see how thick the gelcoat is that was rolled on

February 27, 2011, 07:16:25 PM
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2011, 07:16:25 PM »
Here's some more....enjoy  :thumright:


WHy bother removing the thru hulls when you can gelcoat them in place to ensure no water gets in  :scratch:


WHile we are at it - gelcoat the splashwell in place, make sure to cover all evidence that it can be removed or where any of the screws might be hidden - and don't forget to gelcoat that stainless cleat - we don't want it to rust or anything  :shock:


Gelcoat Gelcoat EVERYWHERE - mwoooohaahahahahaaa


I like that textured look GUESS WHAT.... I GOT A FEVER AND THE ONLY PRESCRIPTION IS MORE GELCOAT!!!!!!!! (kinda like Christopher Walkin SNL "need more cowbell" - for those who don't know it http://www.buzzhumor.com/videos/28180/More_Cowbell ) LOL


Definitely a 30/100 - at 30 mph and 100 feet she looks awesome!!!

February 27, 2011, 07:27:38 PM
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Re: 1978 CCP - time for some work
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2011, 07:27:38 PM »
Best of luck on your face lift. You are going to become 1 with the sanders and pads "daniel son"!

February 28, 2011, 05:46:55 PM
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2011, 05:46:55 PM »
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Best of luck on your face lift. You are going to become 1 with the sanders and pads "daniel son"!

Thanks - I tried my orbital yesterday - was pretty easy to smooth out, but took a little time - I did a 12"x12" section = 20 minutes - so if my math is right and I start right away my hull should be smooth November 26th, 2041 (of course that's taking into account daylight savings....)

February 28, 2011, 05:48:58 PM
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2011, 05:48:58 PM »
ANother question for those in the know - how well does a 222 ccp handle a tower - found one that is in great shape for decent money, but floor of tower is 7 ft and I am wondering about the stability of the ccp hull

thanks for the help!!

February 28, 2011, 06:00:56 PM
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2011, 06:00:56 PM »
I've had two adults up in mine and you cant really tell they are up there. Mine is on top of the tee top. No Helm, just a spotter tower. I suggest you make it a folding tower to get under low bridges and that wayward telephone or CATV line that are notriously not 13' 6" off the ground when you trailer her. Everybody loves to ride up there when cruising or spotting Cobia.  I will admit, I'm not sure how it would be in 5 foot rolling sea across her beam but you pick you days!
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