Washdown set up incomplete

[Whitewater]

Hey boys,

I am attacking one issue at a time with this semi rebuild/ trouble shooting project

I pulled open my bilge hatch the other day and noted the entire place is filled with hoses and check valves that look like they head into 2 places.... One ball valve downs into the hull and the other is runs off towards the stern from there I traced it to the hatch under my sink where it just lays there poking out of the routing / work tube ( I am sure this has a much cooler nautical name) but it just lays there on the floor.  Now under that sink I have an 8-10 gallon tank that I fill from outside the hull with fresh water for the sink.  Assuming that is a fresh water wash down supply and the valve that goes into the bilge would be the raw water supply.  I have no pump..... I have no wiring and I have no idea at the helm if I have a switch burried up under the dash for this to even operate.  I will upload pics tomorrow so you can see what I am looking at as I know and have heard a bunch before that a picture is worth 1000 words.

My Bilge pump is in this hole as well as some odd looking black thing that apparently screws into the bilge area looks like a giant wing nut (about 4-6 inches across) all it says on it is "screw in hand tight only" with a black wire running into it that the PO... soon to be referred to as the POS cut about 4 inches off this unit.  I have absolutely no idea what that thing is.

There is a myriad of wires hoses and just a whole mess of junk in the way jumbling up this space.  I will also have to replace a power strip that I found in there that is beyond salvageable and looking for advise on the best thing to use there (and where to get one) as it is right in the bilge more or less.

[Whitewater]

Image links for what is there of the system











Trying to figure out what purpose of this black wing ding was---- will be
 

[Capt. Bob]

You got it goin' on there bro.

It kinda looks like some of the irrigation I've seen on my job with the garden hose being a nice touch.

The  large black thing below the strainer looks like some type of transducer?

I'm guessing here but I don't think it came that way from the factory. The black "thumb/wing nut on the 90 degree hose barb is a coupling I'm use to seeing on a wash down pump. I'm thinking it attached there. Where does that black hose (with the wing nut) go to?
Same for the red garden hose. Is it just lying on the bottom next to the bilge pump?

My hook up has the raw water intake passing through the strainer first so I would think the red hose would attached to the valve/sea cock atop your raw water intake/scoop. Were is that located (intake scoop) in relation to say, the bilge pump?

[wingtime]

Hard to tell but I'd say the black thing is some sort of a transducer.

[Capt. Bob]

Hard to tell but I'd say the black thing is some sort of a transducer.

Shoot thru hull type but older design is what I was thinking.

[Whitewater]

Sorry I should have mapped out the madness

To the right the white flex hose heads up under the slop sink and dies open ended there by but not connected to the Fresh water holding tank

Next in line is the black rubber hose, (off the white T with the red lever) this heads to the hose port on the wall in front of the live well

The black, thumb wing nut comes off the opposing side of that same T with a 4 inch rubber hose nipple

The clear nylon braided hose dead ends open off the other side of the shut off on the same T

The red "garden" hose looks to me like it should be connected to the live well fill.  That makes sense of the filter in my mind.  although it could be the supply going in the opposite direction if that arrow on the filter is a flow indicator.  I actually think that it is just installed backwards if that is directional.

The "transducer" thing ... it does not come through hull.  I do have a Lowrance depth/fisshy finder that has a transom tranducer.  As far as electronics go that is all I have currently.  That does not mean that the PO did not have somethign else hooked up there before.  He was good at diabling something but really terrible at removing all of the useless mess that went with it.   The guy is a mechanic on the Boston public transportation rail line..... maybe enough said there... maybe not, but his comment to me was that if I knew how much duct tape and zip ties were holding the Green line together I would never take the T again..... okay now enough said!  

Thanks men!

Chris

[Whitewater]

Hard to tell but I'd say the black thing is some sort of a transducer.

Shoot thru hull type but older design is what I was thinking.

Would it be best to leave it as is oooor maybe remove it all together you think?

C

[Capt. Bob]

Hard to tell but I'd say the black thing is some sort of a transducer.

Shoot thru hull type but older design is what I was thinking.

Would it be best to leave it as is oooor maybe remove it all together you think?

C

I'd say it's held in place with some form of epoxy/glue/adhesive and may or may not give up the ghost easily. Could be why it's still there. Other than adding to the clutter, it's not hurting any of the function of the bilge and doesn't appear to be in the way. Try prying on it and see what happens. I've never had one so I'm not sure but I'd guess the "T" is attached directly to the hull and the transducer is screwed into it. May have fluid between the mount/transducer.

[seabob4]

That is definitely an old shoot-through, see where the cable goes into the potting compound.  Myself?  Get a pry bar under there and get rid of it.  It's not doing anything, so if you tear it up in the process, no loss.  One less piece of clutter in the bilge...

Now need to look at the rest of the pics...

[seabob4]

So had a good look...damn, that looks like an old Mako bilge!!!  Mako loved to use those red handles plastic fittings...Question Chris.  Is that lower valve attached to the thru hull intake?  If so, you need to get rid of that and install a proper bronze or marelon shut-off valve.  And that sure doesn't look like marelon, which is the only approved below the waterline non-metallic material...

[Whitewater]

So had a good look...damn, that looks like an old Mako bilge!!!  Mako loved to use those red handles plastic fittings...Question Chris.  Is that lower valve attached to the thru hull intake?  If so, you need to get rid of that and install a proper bronze or marelon shut-off valve.  And that sure doesn't look like marelon, which is the only approved below the waterline non-metallic material...

hey Bob...You mean the grey one with the orange handle....that goes thru the floor into the bilge ?

[seabob4]

Chris,
This one, in the red circle...

[Whitewater]

That is definitely an old shoot-through, see where the cable goes into the potting compound.  Myself?  Get a pry bar under there and get rid of it.  It's not doing anything, so if you tear it up in the process, no loss.  One less piece of clutter in the bilge...

Now need to look at the rest of the pics...

Got a chance to play with this tonight. Transducer is drilled through the hull.... for now she stays right where she is until I am prepared to start learning how to do some glass work and patch the hole that will be made on this removal.

The Raw feed tube also comes through hull.  I know it is not brass, I am not sure about the other material and what it looks like but it has been in place for a while as there are 3 different colors of bottom paint on this thru hull port.  

Next time she goes in the water I will make sure that there is no leak around this but will still plan to replace with brass or the other material.  

I am basicly going to be starting all over at that point and installing an entire new system... I was looking at the Shurflo kit below.... seems like a good deal and reviews on Shurflo all over appear to be good.


http://www.amazon.com/Shurflo-Pro-Washdown-Kit/dp/B000N9ZPQC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2DUOPQ2ARHTKK&coliid=IPRZ031UOY853


any thoughts?

[seabob4]

Chris,
We used Shurflos at Proline, both Blasters and Bait Masters.  You'll read a lot, especially on THT, about pump longevity.  Well, that applies to all brands, not just Shurflo.  Jabsco, Flo-Jet, whatever.  The key is to install the pump in the driest area possible.  Use heat shrink adhesive lined butts for the terminations.  Even spray the pump with anti-corrosion spray yearly.  The pump housings don't like moisture (they rust), even though the instructions will say that they can tolerate damp environments.

I have an 8 year old Blaster in the shop, looks like hell...but still runs like a champ!

P.S. Look for a box today...

[Whitewater]

Chris,
We used Shurflos at Proline, both Blasters and Bait Masters.  You'll read a lot, especially on THT, about pump longevity.  Well, that applies to all brands, not just Shurflo.  Jabsco, Flo-Jet, whatever.  The key is to install the pump in the driest area possible.  Use heat shrink adhesive lined butts for the terminations.  Even spray the pump with anti-corrosion spray yearly.  The pump housings don't like moisture (they rust), even though the instructions will say that they can tolerate damp environments.

I have an 8 year old Blaster in the shop, looks like hell...but still runs like a champ!

P.S. Look for a box today...

Great Tips Bob thank You!  

Box arrived this morning  and I am eager to start the mount of that bracket.