67 - 22'2 Flatback Diver Rebuild

[OldSkool67]

I notice that you have a pipe exiting the starboard aft at the transom.  Did it have any cover or anyway to keep water from getting in?

it does not go through the transom. it turns up, hard to see in the photo

Personally I was think thinking the 50-60 gallon range too, but if the tank is good it's not like you have to fill it all the way... I guess it depends on budget and weight distribution, since you have run run the boat I guess that would be your call. I got a new tank for pretty much free, but from what I saw when I was looking around online a 50-60 gallon tank they run around $350.

I have two 22 gallon steel tanks from 1981 I'll give you, just pay the shipping!  The seams are only slightly rusty...      

I do not want to go through this process and have the tank leak on me and have to tear up the floor. Im going to replace it as a precaution.

Maybe at some point in its life it was used for something other than fishing

gran you may be right.

[RickK]

I notice that you have a pipe exiting the starboard aft at the transom.  Did it have any cover or anyway to keep water from getting in?

it does not go through the transom. it turns up, hard to see in the photo

I see that - was there any sealant or anything to keep water out?  Say you left it at the dock for a few days and there was a torrential rain for a few hours, would the boat self bail (my 170 wouldn't) and not allow water in the pipe or would the boat allow water into the pipe?

[OldSkool67]

Im sorry Rick I didnt understand what you were saying at first.. yes it had a rubber boot on it to keep water out.

[OldSkool67]

built the top cap support and removed it from the boat.





Im really having a tough time deciding if I am going to raise the floor. I keep going back and forth on the extra work and I kind of like having the top of the gunwale right at knee height when Im fishing.

thoughts?

[gran398]

Nice job on the cap. Like the curve.

Will your transom be open or closed?

Everyone raises the floor at least an inch so they'll bail better. But as you say at the cost of reduced freeboard.

Some of the flatback decks have been raised up to five inches. Ashley, how much did you guys raise yours?

[OldSkool67]

Im closing it in for sure.

[seabob4]

Ryan,
I would definitely raise the cockpit sole, an inch, maybe a bit more.  I think you will get used to the slightly lessened freeboard.  But to keep water out of the cockpit when the gang moves aft would be the kicker for me...

[OldSkool67]

well today was one of those wtf did I get myself into days... I have found the stringers are delaming. The previous owner has tried to glass them back in and done a horrible job. Gobs of resin and mat and its thick and all through the boat.. very tough to spot the problem areas. I pulled up on the front center stringer and one whole side broke loose.

I think Im going to cut them all out and build new stringers.. I was hoping not to have to do this, but oh well anything worth doing is worthing doing right... right?

[gran398]

Right!

Go ahead and get her right. Lord knows there are a bunch of good examples here. All of our Proline rebuilds have new stringers, some nice work too.

No biggee...let us know which style you choose.

[RickK]

Now you have to decide what type of stringers.
How thick are the sides and tops of the original stringers?
The new ones I'm building seem thicker already than I remember the old ones in mine were and I still have 2-3 layers to add.  It'll take 2 guys to hoist them into the boat when I'm done.

[gran398]

Maybe you guys should get together and discuss Rick's stringer forms. Sounds like they (the stringers) can be fabbed to any length.

[gman 82 aquasport]

x2 on grans idea

[OldSkool67]

well I slept on in last night and decided to just get after it today and cut out the stringers.


you can see how bad some of the glass was delaminating in the first picture.

[Georgie]

OS - Following this project with much interest.  Best of luck on the results.  Appreciate all the photos you've been able to share.  Hope you've even got more on the hard drive at home.  This is a great R&D expose on the one of the hulls that inspired this site.  

Sorry the stringers are toast, but at least you'll know what you're standing/floating on when it's all over.  Try to keep the momentum.  From what I've experienced and read, that's the key!!!  That and a sufficient supply of good ol' fashioned greenbacks.  

[RickK]

Oh mannnnn - you're past the point of no return.  
The way they set the stringer "insert" was pretty bad - at least on mine. Seems they made the stringers up with roven between them for spacing and then dropped the whole thing in and pasted it in.  That's how mine was and most of the insert was loose somewhere.
So how thick do you think the stringer sides were - maybe 1/16"? How about the tops -maybe 1/4"?  Amazing how little was there - guess that's all it needed?
Can you take some pics of the thickness with a ruler showing the thickness - good for history.  
I remember reading that the trapizoid stringer actually gives you 2 stringers instead one for each one because of the sides - but as thin as they were....