Electronics wiring diagram...gps to vhf to ff

[SaltH2OHokie]

Can I output my 2010C Garmin's gps data to my Standard Horizon VHF and Furuno 582L and then get just a depth output from the 582 to the 2010C?

Don't know how all this works, but if it can do what I described above, I'd be tickled.  The different brands worries me.  I know the 582 has a nav screen and obviously the 2010C can support depth since they had a blackbox sounder for it.

Pardon my ignorance/thanks for the help.  I can connect wires, so if you draw me a line diagram, I should be able to go from there  

[wingtime]

I guess each one of those devices would have to have the ability to communicate over a NMEA 2000 network to do what you describe.


Edit:  Looks like the Garmin supports NMEA 0183 networking.  The Furuno had some wort of a network capability but I'm not sure what.  You didn't mention what model VHF you have.   Bob is the man to answer this question.

[John Jones]

I had Garmin to Icom to 582L working on my CCP.  What model is the VHF?

Oh yeah, I think I had to buy and extra cable for the Furuno for that setup.  I'll have to look back.

[John Jones]

You have to have this cable to hook the Furuno in the circuit.

Looking at the rear of the 582L it's the small connector on the far right.

000-154-054    NMEA Cable, 1 x 6 Pin Connector, 5 Meters    $40.00
http://www.furunousa.com/Products/Produ ... ct=FCV582L

[SaltH2OHokie]

Okay,

I ordered the Furuno cable, antenna for the GPS (17x), and pulled the wires from my VHF down out of the e-box.  The most success I got was the gps working...ie I correctly wired the antenna to the display.  Never got anything else to display (no speed from GPS on the Furuno and no water temp or depth on the Garmin didn't even mess with the VHF...figured once I figured out the Furuno the VHF would be easy.)

The wire colors on the garmin harness do not match the colors in the Garmin manual, which complicates things.  The colors on the antenna do not match what the 2010C manual say they should be either...it's like they've updated their colors in the harness without updating the manual.

Any thoughts?

[seabob4]

I would strongly suggest calling Furuno tech support.  Have "been there done that".  They will tell you the wire colors from each unit, regardless of the VHF manufacturer, that need to be mated up.  

I do this all the time as manufacturers are effin retarded when it comes to GPS/DSC interfacing between different brands... :x  :x  :x

[seabob4]

Oh, and you think Furuno manuals are effed up?  Try Si-Tex!!! :x  :x  :x  :x

[John Jones]

Any thoughts?

Yep.  I can tell you how but I just saw this and it's my bedtime.  If nothing blows up with work in the morning I'll put something together.  If I had known you were going to order the cable I would already have it up.

[John Jones]

The wire colors on the garmin harness do not match the colors in the Garmin manual, which complicates things.  The colors on the antenna do not match what the 2010C manual say they should be either...it's like they've updated their colors in the harness without updating the manual.

Any thoughts?

Sorry.  I guess my reading comprehension was off last night.  I did not catch where you said the wire colors did not match.  If the wire colors don't match the manuals, then I can't be much help.  Do like Bob says and call tech support.  I have not run into that issue before.

I can suggest a couple of things.  For communications with the VHF and Furuno, make sure that the Garmin port you are using is set for NMEA communications, not Garmin proprietary (default).  You also have to go into the Furuno setup menu to activate the data port.  It's in the manual.  If you can't find it, let me know.  It's buried deep in the menus.

Good luck!

[SaltH2OHokie]

I got it. Everything is talking to everything like it should. I'll post my wiring diagram for posterity:

VHF: Standard Horizon Intrepid LE

GPS: Garmin 2010C with brand new 17X HVS NMEA 0183 GPS receiver(so the 2010c is just a display...the "GPS" is the GP17X, which I still call the antenna.)  The harness for the 17x was well labeled and made sense.  The harness for the 2010C (which I got used, so no telling why it's like this) did not match the number of wires, nor the color of wires described in the 2010C manual.  It did have a sticker on the bitter end of the Red wire that gave "Tx, port 1: green" etc.

Sounder: Furuno 582L

I used what I call a junction block...I think the package said "Barrier Block".  I used 6 Junctions:

1: 12V from Boat, Red-2010C, Red- Antenna
2: Red/White- Antenna, Green- VHF
3: White- Furuno, Brown 2010C
4: White- Antenna, Green- 2010C
5: Blue- VHF, Gray- Antenna, Yellow- Furuno, White- 2010C
6: 12V Neg (ground) from the boat, Black from 2010C, Antenna and Furuno, Green- Furuno, Orange and White- Antenna, Orange- Antenna.

I gave up on the instructions, ripped up all the connections I made last night and just read an article that explained the NMEA 0183 interface and the "rules" that went with it.  Using that...and logic...I got it all working on my 1st try.  I was also excited to learn that I can change units on one and not the other when it comes to speed and depth, so I can see feet on GPS and fathoms on Furuno (nice offshore) and I can see knots and MPH (which is nice because people constantly ask "How fast is that in MPH?")

[John Jones]

Great!  Understanding the the workings is what is necessary since the manufacturers do not use the same terminology or color code.

I kept knots on the Furuno and mph on the Garmin.  I never cared much for fathoms so I left everything in feet.

[Capt. Bob]

I kept knots on the Furuno and mph on the Garmin.  I never cared much for fathoms so I left everything in feet.

What,
No setting for "leagues"?

[SaltH2OHokie]

I kept knots on the Furuno and mph on the Garmin.  I never cared much for fathoms so I left everything in feet.

What,
No setting for "leagues"?

I'm not a huge fan of the fathom myself, but when I'm offshore and the radio proclaims "the pretty water is east of 30fathoms", I don't want to do math  

[John Jones]

I kept knots on the Furuno and mph on the Garmin.  I never cared much for fathoms so I left everything in feet.

What,
No setting for "leagues"?

I thought that was for submarines.

[SaltH2OHokie]

I kept knots on the Furuno and mph on the Garmin.  I never cared much for fathoms so I left everything in feet.

What,
No setting for "leagues"?

I thought that was for submarines.

Then I should have used "leagues" on my last boat.  Thing was like riding in a sub with the hatch open.  When I finished spearfishing for the day, if it was snotty or the wind was stiff at all, I just left my mask on for the run home...no B.S.