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October 10, 2012, 12:17:28 AM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2012, 12:17:28 AM »
Depends on how much bait you plan to use.
A 17 gal. was enough for the amount of bait I used and fit my full bracket on the CCP perfect.
Then again I don't use a lot of live bait.
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October 10, 2012, 07:45:26 AM
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« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2012, 07:45:26 AM »
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If I cut it down to 22" I will be just shy of 40 gal. or 340 lbs that should be ok for this boat right? I will have a sealed motor bracket and swimplatform to add some buoyancy to the back of the boat.

Fish, depends upon where you mount it. Presume it is going directly behind the console like most.

Before you cut it, go online and look at the height dimensions for the Dorado-style livewells (Tampa style). You can always adjust the seating height by the thickness of the seat cushion on top.

The weight shouldn't be a concern if it is mounted behind the console. If you use an internal standpipe as a drain....(keeps the outlet hose off the deck) you can adjust the water capacity based upon the height of the standpipe.

October 10, 2012, 07:59:59 AM
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« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2012, 07:59:59 AM »
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When I was making the mold I had a 30 gal plastic drum near by for a guage of the size. So i am trully closer to 50 gal? I by now way wanted it that big because of the weight.

The 30 gal drum is 30" tall by 18" round.

From your dimensions, the above is a cylinder and calcs. closer to 33 gals (room for fluid expansion).
What you built is an oval shape (based on pics and dimensions).

Two different geometric shapes, thus two different volumes.

Like Gran says, don't fill it all the way up. Set your drain accordingly.
You can always put 20 gals in a 50 gal tank. :mrgreen:
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October 12, 2012, 11:39:30 PM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2012, 11:39:30 PM »
I plan to make a fiberglass engine bracket with a swim platform. Is there a set setback from the transom that's needed for the engine to tilt back without hitting transom. I have a 225 optimax.

Also is there a standard with a certain setback on how much the engine bracket can be raised and the prop not cavitate?

here is a link to a guy who is rebuilding his boat and making his own engine bracket. Enjoy.

http://s728.photobucket.com/albums/ww29 ... =slideshow
1987 222CCP current rebuild.




October 13, 2012, 06:31:14 AM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2012, 06:31:14 AM »
Man that was a long slideshow - pc went to sleep 3 times through it.  That rebuild was something though. The owner is quite skilled.
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October 13, 2012, 07:07:14 AM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2012, 07:07:14 AM »
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I plan to make a fiberglass engine bracket with a swim platform. Is there a set setback from the transom that's needed for the engine to tilt back without hitting transom. I have a 225 optimax.

Also is there a standard with a certain setback on how much the engine bracket can be raised and the prop not cavitate?

here is a link to a guy who is rebuilding his boat and making his own engine bracket. Enjoy.

http://s728.photobucket.com/albums/ww29 ... =slideshow

mercury recommends for every 12 inches of setback, you can raise the motor 1 inch, but i personally would lean towards 6 inches back 1 inch up, but running a good prop will keep it from cavitating/ventilating
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October 13, 2012, 10:13:58 AM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2012, 10:13:58 AM »
I like the fiberglass bracket, but would like to here from him on the build. The swim platform has to be structural because he has no internal support. So the attachment of the platform to the box is critical. He certainly has confidence in his design and build. I’m less confident. I would have to see the numbers. Does any one here, know him? Is he on the Seacraft board? With that said, I wouldn’t mind building one myself. I bet if anyone here knows him. It would be seabob. Fishinonthebrain when you build yours. Please do it in detail. I would love to follow your build. :thumleft:

October 13, 2012, 11:34:18 AM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2012, 11:34:18 AM »
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I like the fiberglass bracket, but would like to here from him on the build. The swim platform has to be structural because he has no internal support. So the attachment of the platform to the box is critical. He certainly has confidence in his design and build. I’m less confident. I would have to see the numbers. Does any one here, know him? Is he on the Seacraft board? With that said, I wouldn’t mind building one myself. I bet if anyone here knows him. It would be seabob. Fishinonthebrain when you build yours. Please do it in detail. I would love to follow your build. :thumleft:

He does mension about glassing in a center support down the center of the engine bracket but does not show it done. I would expect once all the coosa and center support is installed the inside would be once again glassed in. Hopefully seabob or someone else could shed some light on these good questions.
1987 222CCP current rebuild.




October 13, 2012, 12:05:23 PM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2012, 12:05:23 PM »
A center knee brace is what I would like to see. Also his total; thickness at the motor mount and more importantly, the thickness at the mounting to the transom. 1.5 inches Coosa at the motor and if the glass, inside and out is .25. That would be 2 inches for the motor to mount to. That’s good, but he states .75 every place else. Unless I missed something. .75 and lets say .25 thick glass in and out. Isn’t enough. At leasted I don’t think so. All so inside corner radius, is important. The larger the radius. The better the strength and less chance of creaking. Also where the platform meets the tub. The larger the radius the better. Those would be questions I would have. you asked about the set back. His is close. most maufs. use 28 to 30 inch set backs for six cyclinder motors. Just my thoughts. :thumleft:

October 13, 2012, 12:57:10 PM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2012, 12:57:10 PM »
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A center knee brace is what I would like to see. Also his total; thickness at the motor mount and more importantly, the thickness at the mounting to the transom. 1.5 inches Coosa at the motor and if the glass, inside and out is .25. That would be 2 inches for the motor to mount to. That’s good, but he states .75 every place else. Unless I missed something. .75 and lets say .25 thick glass in and out. Isn’t enough. At leasted I don’t think so. All so inside corner radius, is important. The larger the radius. The better the strength and less chance of creaking. Also where the platform meets the tub. The larger the radius the better. Those would be questions I would have. you asked about the set back. His is close. most maufs. use 28 to 30 inch set backs for six cyclinder motors. Just my thoughts. :thumleft:

I would agree his radius seem a little small and I am thinking of wrapping the whole inside of the  motor mount with coosa and then fiberglass. On the setback I was thinking 30" I dont think my motor has the limit switch adjustments on the tilt up of the motor.
1987 222CCP current rebuild.




October 13, 2012, 02:44:46 PM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2012, 02:44:46 PM »
Here’s another one you may want to look at. He has some good ideas. I normal y don’t like to refer to another site, specially, one I was thrown off of. Bwahahahaha  

http://www.classicseacraft.com/communit ... om+bracket  

I also don’t know if you can get their with what I’m showing, but I’m sure, one of the other guys here, will be able to fix my screw ups. :thumright:

October 13, 2012, 03:30:14 PM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2012, 03:30:14 PM »
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Here’s another one you may want to look at. He has some good ideas. I normal y don’t like to refer to another site, specially, one I was thrown off of. Bwahahahaha  

http://www.classicseacraft.com/communit ... om+bracket  

I also don’t know if you can get their with what I’m showing, but I’m sure, one of the other guys here, will be able to fix my screw ups. :thumright:
He definitly has some good ideas i can incorporate into my project Thanks for the link :thumright: .

 I am definitely staying away from plywood with anything I am building or rebuilding on this boat though.
1987 222CCP current rebuild.




October 13, 2012, 03:42:48 PM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2012, 03:42:48 PM »
You may want to check out this site as well. Go to the bottom of the page. Look at their fiberglass core matl. Mite be worth looking into.

http://fiberglassenginebrackets.com

October 17, 2012, 09:18:53 AM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2012, 09:18:53 AM »
If you are interested in who the person is who ‘s slide show you found. His board name on classic seacraft is kneedeep.  He lives in the Florida pan handle. I’ve tried to find away of contacting him, but since I’m not a member of that site ( I think I‘m still not well come over there). I can’t  find out any more then I did.  If you find away to contact him, I would be interested getting info help from him as well. Maybe some one could get him to join us here. :thumleft:

October 17, 2012, 02:11:19 PM
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Re: 1987 Aquasport CCP222
« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2012, 02:11:19 PM »
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If you are interested in who the person is who ‘s slide show you found. His board name on classic seacraft is kneedeep.  He lives in the Florida pan handle. I’ve tried to find away of contacting him, but since I’m not a member of that site ( I think I‘m still not well come over there). I can’t  find out any more then I did.  If you find away to contact him, I would be interested getting info help from him as well. Maybe some one could get him to join us here. :thumleft:

Thanks saltfly i will go over and join and try to contact him. I will also mention I have a rebuild on this site and maybe that will spark his intrest to come check our site out. Thanks for the heads up I am getting real close to getting started on that engine/ swim platform all the materials are starting to come in.
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