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May 21, 2012, 01:29:07 PM
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ali y0

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Aquasplash?
« on: May 21, 2012, 01:29:07 PM »
Why is the ride so wet? Even in intercoastal waters if I come across another boaters wake being very cautious everyone on board is bound to get soaked!



Sincerly,

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May 21, 2012, 03:19:40 PM
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Re: Aquasplash?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2012, 03:19:40 PM »
It is the nature of the beast. All Aquasports are wet boats.

At least the four I've owned have been. :mrgreen:

I would imagine that the larger models are much dryer that the smaller ones I've driven but that's just an assumption on my part.
Still, even if you hadn't admitted it, I would have guessed (correctly) that your length hull fit the wet ride syndrome.

Someone may have installed "splash rails" and maybe they can comment but I haven't seen photos of that here.

You never know.
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May 21, 2012, 04:05:13 PM
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Re: Aquasplash?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2012, 04:05:13 PM »
Quote from: "ali y0"
Why is the ride so wet? Even in intercoastal waters if I come across another boaters wake being very cautious everyone on board is bound to get soaked!



Sincerly,

a 19.1 owner.

The 19-1 was a unique hull to itself so it really doesn't represent a trend in the design of other aquasports. There are a lot of factors that contribute to a wet ride. Weight distribution. engine trim angle, wind direction and intensity relative to heading all play a role in a wet or dry ride. Does your boat plow or have a high degree of wetted surface regardless of engine trim angle? The boat could have a hook from improper hull support. There really isnt a lot of 19-1 owners that you can swap "ride stories" with. I would start to look at the things I mentioned as root cause that may shed some light on the issue.
1973 Aquasport 22-2, twin 115 Mercs
2000 Baycraft 175 flats boat, 60 Bigfoot Merc
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1966 Orlando Clipper 13, 9.9 Merc

May 21, 2012, 04:52:30 PM
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2012, 04:52:30 PM »
As said above, you can reduce the spash with trim, direction, and speed; but Aquasports lack that big bow flare that pushes water back down.  

If you want to knock the spray down, SmartRails have a good reputation for making a big difference in spray and do not require you to drill holes in the hull:     http://www.thesmartrail.com/
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May 21, 2012, 07:10:51 PM
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2012, 07:10:51 PM »
A 22 flatback is the driest 22ft boat I have ever rode period. She has no spray rails, no spray comes off the boat until its behind the console.
Try changing the angle you go across boat wakes and trim tabs will help in a beam sea
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May 21, 2012, 09:46:01 PM
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2012, 09:46:01 PM »
Fitz is right about the 19-1 being a unique hull design in the Aquasport family, so it may very well ride wetter than other Aquasport models, but I have to agree with Bob on the point that it seems that all Aquasports ride wet.  I can't say anything about the dryness or wetness of the Wellcraft rebranded Aquasports, but all the others models of Aquasports are wet riding boats, CCP's included because the CCP's were really nothing more than the Osprey hull design with increased deadrise.  The chine stayed the same.

Bow Flare really doesn't have much to do with the dryness of a ride as much as the hardness of a chine.  Aquasports have a soft chine and do not effectively deflect the upward spray caused by the vee hull.  See here-



Most modern boats have a larger chine with more of a downward angle, which makes a huge difference in how wet the ride is.  The spray rails mentioned earlier are accomplishing the same thing as a "hard chine", but as an afterthought.  My old SeaCraft was also a wet ride... Pops added spray-rails, and it made a world of difference.
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May 21, 2012, 11:10:49 PM
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2012, 11:10:49 PM »
What you refer to Jess is a "reverse chine." Nothing to do with make/locale...but most Carolina boats feature a hard and  distinct reverse chine. Designed to run in a hard sea, hard chop. The downward, or "reverse" chines are  located amidships forward, on the entry.

A boat for every sea, and a sea for every boat. AllYo, you can minimize the spray on your 19-1 and crew by realizing the limitations of your hull.

Position the crew aft, get the bow up, and pull her back....on plane, but dry. When crossing big wakes, passing other boats from behind....quarter into the wake on the inside....then parallel for an instant....then switch directions quickly to port, cross, and again quarter into them from outside of the wake. Properly done....the girls stay dry.

Same holds true when encountering big wakes bow-to. Still quarter the sea, then parallel, then cross, then quarter again to keep the crew dry.

May 22, 2012, 05:42:36 AM
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 05:42:36 AM »
http://maritime.about.com/od/Glossary/g ... -Chine.htm

Could also be referred to as a reverse chine

These  are all good methods to help reduce how much face spray you're getting, but with a wet riding boat, there's sometimes not a lot you can do to overcome unfavorable conditions.
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May 22, 2012, 08:35:58 AM
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 08:35:58 AM »
Still another resort may be a "spray hood" and some canvas protection when the conditions get a little nasty.

http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... 71&cat=551

http://www.classicaquasport.com/gallery ... 71&cat=551 (top right clm.)

There's a reason why they were labeled a spray hood but then you already know that.

Good luck.
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May 22, 2012, 10:19:54 AM
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 10:19:54 AM »
Quote from: "ali y0"
Why is the ride so wet? Even in intercoastal waters if I come across another boaters wake being very cautious everyone on board is bound to get soaked!



Sincerly,

a 19.1 owner.

Do you have a Gull or an Osprey 19-1? The differnence is console placement. I believe the Gull had the console placed way forward; almost up to the front casting deck. If you put 2-3 guys behind that console, that far forward, no amount of engine trim will pick the nose up to keep the spray to a minimum.
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May 22, 2012, 12:18:47 PM
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 12:18:47 PM »
I will say this about the 225 and 245/250 Ospreys.  In a windy, GOM confused 2-4 chop offshore, aft of the console you will get wet...period.  Console forward?  Dry as a bone...


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May 22, 2012, 06:08:39 PM
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 06:08:39 PM »
I can say that the Explorers are a wet boat depending on the seas or if trimmed the wrong way (you can ask my wife who likes to sit in the aft :lol: ) The wrong "period" of the seas is a killer for these front heavy boats too.
Now, unless it's 1ft or less when I take out the 230, I usually put on the helm eisenglass and roll it up. It's easy to roll it down and keep everyone (who's huddle inside the helm area at that point) dry.
Rick
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May 22, 2012, 07:25:37 PM
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2012, 07:25:37 PM »
My weight distribution is as follows:


Casting deck: Storage Compartments have the life jackets and maybe 15lbs of bs.

Center console: has 36 gallon fuel cell, 2 batteries, console and t-top

Rear: Johnson 175
1971 19\'1

May 22, 2012, 08:01:20 PM
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2012, 08:01:20 PM »
A 175 on a 191 should push that baby quite well (think instant face lift  :wink:  )
Rick
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May 22, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2012, 10:00:49 PM »
With my boat I need to find the "sweet" spot,match the speed of the boat to the sea condition,to fast and the boat pounds and creates alot of spray,too slow and it won't stay on plane well.Find the right cruising speed in the conditions you are in and you ride will improve.  
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