Info on AS 250 Exlporer

[seabob4]

My pleasure MJ.  You'll need a 70' roll.  When I used to rubrail 225s, it was 11 arm spans IIRC, which, at my span, comes to about 65'...

We got them in the 200' spools at WC/AS, you just started pulling insert off the spool, kept grapping arm spans, 'til you were there.  Had probably 5' to spare, but better too long...

[wingtime]

Any reputable dealer will be happy to do a compression test right in front of you when you pick up the boat.  They did that for me when I picked up my Explorer and my 170.  Only takes a few minutes.

[meanjean]

Any reputable dealer will be happy to do a compression test right in front of you when you pick up the boat.  They did that for me when I picked up my Explorer and my 170.  Only takes a few minutes.

Good idea, ask them to spot check a few cylinders.  They quoted one hour of labor to do it, maybe that's the shop minimum?

[futch13]

Any reputable dealer will be happy to do a compression test right in front of you when you pick up the boat.  They did that for me when I picked up my Explorer and my 170.  Only takes a few minutes.

Good idea, ask them to spot check a few cylinders.  They quoted one hour of labor to do it, maybe that's the shop minimum?

Yep, that's a standard shop minimum, figure by the time customer talks to the service writer, tech gets boat backed in, cowling pulled, spark plugs pulled, tech gets tools out, spark checker hooked up, compression test done, spark plugs reinstalled, tech put tools up, writes up findings, tech pulls boat out, turns in paperwork, gets put in computer, customer comes in to pick up, asks questions, may need tech's input, help hooking up to boat,etc, etc, shop usually has way more time than 1 hr in boat.  

Every one needs a paycheck. And shop has to pay overhead.  The equipment used to move boat, special tools if required, factory training,etc, etc...

I have been asked many times about getting a motor hooked to our computer for a down load, tell them it's a 1 hr minimum and the customer gets upset because "it only takes 15 minutes to get the download"  I just tell them to go buy their own laptop, software and wire harness to get their own download.

Sorry for the rant, I know most customers do not understand the cost of running a repair shop.

[seabob4]

No need to apologize, Loye...

[meanjean]

Guys, need some quick feedback, I'm in az and looked at the boat. In the bilge areas the white gel coat stuff can be pulled up in some areas.  Like on top of the starboard stringer, in the aft acess area. Another is the anchor locker.  I can see the tan stringer under the white.  Some chunks are the size of an index card and less.

Is this an issue to run from?
Sorry for typo, using my phone

[redemn93]

what do you mean the gealcoat can be pulled up?  you mean the fiberglass?  can you get pics?

[meanjean]

I don't know if its gel coat.  whatever the white stuff that Is painted on in the bilge area can be peeled off in small areas.
not sure how to post a picture from my phone onto the form .  

its not everywhere just in a few select locations.

[meanjean]

the first area I noticed was on top of the stringer.
right next to where the batteries are kept.

[Capt. Bob]

It's paint.
Flaking with age. :cry:

This is what it looked like new.

[Capt. Bob]

"Old" factory paint on stringers (sides fronting bilge) and face of transom.

New paint applied where old was peeling (bilge bottom).



Very common. It is not gel coat.

[Capt. Bob]

its not everywhere just in a few select locations.

Kinda like where it might get damp I'd guess.

[meanjean]

after reading other internet forums I think its a product called bilge coat.  others say it's not an issue and just ugly looking.
structurally it shouldn't be a problem.
anyone have a different opinion

[meanjean]

its not everywhere just in a few select locations.

Kinda like where it might get damp I'd guess.

thanks for the quick reply.
I didn't see your post before my previous posting.
guess it's just cosmetic and nothing to worry about.

[seabob4]

Absolutely cosmetic.  The stringers aren't roughed up before the bilge is sprayed with gel.  Eventually, and it happens on ALL makes of boats, the gel will just flake off, exposing the glass underneath.  I've even seen it on Intrepids...