Is everyone able to fit all cables into the rigging tube?

[seabob4]

May have been a pop bottle.  I guess I will never know though.  

Oh, I will be having many many days out on the water until then.  I am that crazy person each winter breaking the ice around the shoreline at the boat ramp, so I can launch the boat.  Its usually just me & the birds out there in the winter.

I like working on boats in the winter time because all the boat dealers, prop shops, etc are begging for my business up here.

I am going out again Friday and Christmas Eve.  And December 26th as well.  I have to make the most of my time off. Haha.

-Ben

Have at it, dress warm, and enjoy!!  Some good tunage helps...  

[gran398]

Good morning,

Ben congratulations on the christening. What an exciting day!

Getting back to the rigging tube(s)....haven't had a chance due to the season to ck. my mess in a while, so am riding over there early this morn....this discussion has made me consider some alternatives in terms of more space. We're rigging twins, so it will be two of everything with the exception of the hydraulic lines.

The deck is not in yet....so we're now thinking one six inch, rather than one four inch tube outboard of the starboard stringer. There will be small aft boxes...the starboard side box will be where the rigging comes up and exits to the engines. So if there is room, and there should be...we'll change it to a six inch.

Ben, again, congrats  :rendeer:

[seabob4]

Scott,
Is there a possibility of running a 4" up both sides, with 2 entrances into the console?  I've seen that many a time, works real well, and keeps you from having a really big bundle coming out of 1 rigging boot...

[gran398]

Absolutely there is.

Went by this morn....we want to run everything to the aft starboard box. We have decided to go with a single thin wall 6" PVC.

There is a big throat built into the stringer (old rigging tray), we have bridged the top with sparloy high density synthetic. Also used as the new stringer cap material.

The pipe will be glassed through the throat, then into the base of the console. At the stern, the box will cover where the pipe comes in through the deck.

Plusses and minuses, but if we go with one tube we can eliminate cutting the port side stringer. And also, to me, everything leaving one side only is cleaner, less underfoot.

Bob, Fitz brings up a good point, so wanted to get your input: Where the rigging exits the side of the box going to the engines...is they're anything more attractive to use other than those collapsible rubber boots?

Thanks!

[seabob4]

Where the rigging exits the side of the box going to the engines...is they're anything more attractive to use other than those collapsible rubber boots?

Thanks!

Yes, Scott, my favorite rigging, The T-H Marine 3" rigging hose and rigging port.  Like these on the Cape Horn...



Problem is, your motors most likely won't accept that large of rigging hose.  Hate to say it, but even on the pricier small boats that have smaller motors, the rigging "boot" is what I have seen used...

[gran398]

Hey thanks Bob.

Is there a chance the 2 inch version would work?

http://www.thmarine.com/product.cfm?PRID=106

Sure would be clean...thanks!

[Capt Matt]

A transom cabinet hides it well  lol
How about running two rigging tubes against the inside of the stringers? then use the flex tube to hide everything from the deck to the motor.
The twin motor rigging will take some thought to keep it all clean. Does it all need to come out of one side?
Capt matt

[seabob4]

A transom cabinet hides it well  lol
How about running two rigging tubes against the inside of the stringers? then use the flex tube to hide everything from the deck to the motor.
The twin motor rigging will take some thought to keep it all clean. Does it all need to come out of one side?
Capt matt

What my thoughts are...

[gran398]

Hey thanks guys. All of us, including the builder, are on the same page.

Some new news this afternoon. A Seamark came back wrecked. Chris wants to cut-out the chase tube from the wrecked Seamark...basically free. Solid fiberglass. Shape-wise...very similar to a home gutter drain tube. Not circular, rectangular, with rounded corners. Roomy, easy pulling/pushing. To me...solid glass on the chase is deluxe.

Will run through the starboard stringer per the original cut-out. Then outboard down the stringer on the starboard side (exactly per the original chase tray) but under the deck, then up into the aft box.

Then hopefully  2 inch rigging tubes per SB's link to finalize the run to the engines.

SB..will double 2 inch tubes exiting the box work with those 75 Mercs?

Thanks all :rendeer:

[seabob4]

Scott, if you're bound and determined to have both sets of rigging run out of the starboard box, then install the rigging ports vertically, one atop the other, a little separation, the top port going to the port motor, bottom to starboard...

[gran398]

That was exactly my thinking, one above the other. All from the starboard side. Seems clean to me.

But to the extent that I am bound and determined....and good with that....please explain the benefit of having the port side rigging exiting from a port side box.

Not set in stone yet...and for damn sure respect your thinking...and you know I'll end up calling you anyway.

But, for the benefit of the board...and discussion...and future rigging, maybe well into the future...why would one want the rigging per engine exiting from opposite sides? That is...two tubes, one outboard per each side of the stringers.

Could see it if it were a big boat, going aft to the engines from a big stern bulkhead, straight shot to each engine...but on my beam-challenged waif?

My first thought is that it kills the stern fishing access...downrigger access, anchor pulling etc. from the formerly unencumbered (clear) port side. Not much room back there to start with...open-transom twins.

Not ready for rigging yet...still time. Hope my thoughts/descriptions are accurate...Thanks!

[seabob4]

Well, Scott, I certainly understand your want to keep the port side clean and "unencumbered". So another alternative is to tab a couple of 3" pipes on the outboard side of the starboard stringer, one for the boats harness and the starboard engine rigging, the other for the port engine rigging.  Assuming your going to go with hydraulic steering and a tie bar, run the steering hoses in the port side pipe to reduce clutter  If you're going to have the batts in the console, keep in mind, even with little 75s on the back end, you'll still want 2GA batt cables running aft to the motors.  Each one of those little buggers is about 1/2" in diameter...

[gran398]

Well, Scott, I certainly understand your want to keep the port side clean and "unencumbered". So another alternative is to tab a couple of 3" pipes on the outboard side of the starboard stringer, one for the boats harness and the starboard engine rigging, the other for the port engine rigging.  Assuming your going to go with hydraulic steering and a tie bar, run the steering hoses in the port side pipe to reduce clutter  If you're going to have the batts in the console, keep in mind, even with little 75s on the back end, you'll still want 2GA batt cables running aft to the motors.  Each one of those little buggers is about 1/2" in diameter...

Excellent, thanks Bob. I was hoping that was what you would say.

Do you think the 2" version of those flex tubes would rig to the Mercs?

Thanks bro.

[seabob4]

Scott, the 2" will work IF you run the fuel hose outside the hose.  Are you going to be using oil tanks or are you gonna run pre-mix?  Run pre-mix and you get rid of the tanks and the oil lines running to the motor.  Those 2 lines alone really eat up available space inside the rigging hose.  For fuel lines outside the rigging hose, I use a bulkhead fitting, barbs on both sides.  Where are you locating the primer bulbs, inside the starboard box, or in the splashwell?  How about the Racors?

[gran398]

Hey thanks! I saw on the TH Marine site a flex hose with an outside fitting that allows for the primer bulb to be exposerd for a short length of the run...looked pretty cool.

The oil reservoirs are mounted on top of the engines, so thats good. The Racors are going in the starboard box. The port box will be storage for extra lube, soap, brushes, secret lures, etc.

The reason I asked about the 2 inch...you were saying that the 3 inch wouldn't hook up to those little Mercs...do you think the 2 inch ones will hook up OK?

Thanks!