Fletch's 1976 170 Rebuild

[Fletch170]

Hey Everyone! Looks like I did the damn near impossible. Figured a way to run all my rigging under the deck of a 170.  The one larger tube has a "S" type bend of 2 large 90's. I was worried that the throttle might bind, but I put the cables through the assembled tube and they worked perfectly. The only thing I forgot to do was drill drain holes in the smaller ones, so that any water can drain out.

Here's the link to the new pics!  http://fletch170.blogspot.com/

One question. All of the tubes come up inside the console, and it's going to look like hell. How did you guys dress this up? Is there a larger "boot" available, similiar to what you see offten times in the stern where the motor's rigging is fed through? (terrible description, I know).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

-Christian

[Fletch170]

Also,

I didn't know this, but the inside portion of the stringer is cored, is this commonplace for all AS models?

[CaptSteveBetz]

Hey Everyone! Looks like I did the damn near impossible. Figured a way to run all my rigging under the deck of a 170.  The one larger tube has a "S" type bend of 2 large 90's. I was worried that the throttle might bind, but I put the cables through the assembled tube and they worked perfectly. The only thing I forgot to do was drill drain holes in the smaller ones, so that any water can drain out.

Here's the link to the new pics!  http://fletch170.blogspot.com/

One question. All of the tubes come up inside the console, and it's going to look like hell. How did you guys dress this up? Is there a larger "boot" available, similiar to what you see offten times in the stern where the motor's rigging is fed through? (terrible description, I know).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

-Christian

I may be wrong but those look like some tight bends for your control cables to run through.

[Fletch170]

Steve,

I know its a bit much, but I was really concerned with running the large PVC on more of an angle through the stringer, esentially making the stringer hollow and not as strong. I'm going to try it agian with the cables making the last turn up towards the motor. If they bind, I really dont have much of a choice. The 170 has little to no room under the deck, so it's a lil tricky.

My hydraulic steering and aft electronics wiring (bildge pump, anchor light) are being run through the smaller tube running to the aft section. The one heading to the bow is the interior leds, and fishbox led wiring, and bow light wires.

[Capt Matt]

I fiberglassed my rigging tubes into the floor where they came out under the console and cut them down to about a inch high. Make sure you stick the tubes where they pass through the stringer, floor etc so they do not rattle.  If you buy expensive teleflex shift cables you might get away with the S curve, with a regular cable it will be tight.
Capt Matt

[Fletch170]

Awesome.....I'm guessing this is going to be a real pain in the balls. I hope with the 3 Inch PVC, it's enough space to keep them from binding.

[gran398]

fletch, looking good!

Yep, the stringers are foam-filled...probably the biggest reason these boats are in demand nowadays as rebuilds. Since the stringers didn't rot-out...the hulls still have their shape. For the most part anyway.

Looking at your rigging run....how about where it enters the stringer on the outboard side (outside of the stringer) you add a 30 degree PVC angle...into the stringer...then go up toward the console. Similar to the last pic Lew posted of my mess. That should knock out that heavy curve Steve and Matt mentioned.

Just a thought.

[Fletch170]

Hey,

I could do the 30 degree entry from the outside of the stringer. The problem still stands, there is a 90 degree bend that goes up. The 30 degree would help though. We'll see, I'll plumb the shift cables and see if it binds. if it does, I'll just cut the stringers up even more! YAYYYYYYYYYY. Glassing back all the holes before I pour the foam should be a real treat.

[gran398]

Hey,

I could do the 30 degree entry from the outside of the stringer. The problem still stands, there is a 90 degree bend that goes up. The 30 degree would help though. We'll see, I'll plumb the shift cables and see if it binds. if it does, I'll just cut the stringers up even more! YAYYYYYYYYYY. Glassing back all the holes before I pour the foam should be a real treat.

Just checked your first pic closely. What's wrong with instead of a 90 you have a 45 so it comes into the console a bit slanted?  Gonna have a boot over it anyway...and those cables will be a lot better off.

Just another thought

[Fletch170]

Another 45 and it will run right into the fuel tank. Basically, I need to get the rigging up between the fuel tank, and the inside of the console. If I come in at a really shallow angle, the hole will be a large Oval, dig? If you page back on my blog to the first few posts, you can see the outline of the console where it sits, and where the fuel tank is.

Thus, the reason this is a real pain, and why most people just keep the rigging trough. However, my OCD will not allow me the "easy" way out. My main hobby is building motorcycles, so hiding wires as become my passion.

[gran398]

How about if you moved the tube out from the stringer a bit, on standoffs....and brought the 45 straight thru the top of the stringer....barely clearing the inside of the console?

[Fletch170]

Rain the throttle cables through the tube and made a hard 90 at the stern, the cables worked perfectly, barely any resistance. Perhaps the cables for the 115 Yamaha arent as heavy duty?

[Fletch170]

Hey guys, got the floors roughed in this weekend. It's starting to get warm, glass work is just around the corner. Being that my deck is secured to the liner, I was thinking of using a heavier mat for the deck, say 4 oz. Is this a good idea? I'm going to grind out 6 inches above on the liner, so the glass really has some surface to bond to. Ideas?

http://fletch170.blogspot.com/


Check out the progress.

[dirtwheelsfl]

mat will be fine for the covering the wood aspect of the deck, but id run some tabs of 1708 into the liner. tab it in then cover it with mat...

[Fletch170]

I was thinking of doing that. 1708 tape with no mat?