Hate asking this question, but got to......Why are my scuppers underwater?

[MarshMarlowe196]

I'm not sure I would agree with 19-6's sitting as low as yours is, with your outboard, being normal.  Maybe thats the way your year model is (read heavier?), but as far as my observations with my rig, mine is floating considerably higher.  The weight gain we're seeing as normal could be attributed to old age   :pl:

When I first bought my rig, the transom was stock (15"), and I powered the boat with a 1990 model 90HP OMC, which is probably the same weight as your current engine, maybe <15lbs weight difference.  I had no ball scuppers, just open thru-hulls, and my boat self-bailed like it should, tied to the dock.  Yes, when I walked my mildly overweight mass to the stern, water came in, but otherwise, the scuppers were not submerged.

Now, my 19-6 spent 364 days a year in a garage, and only saw real use after I purchased it.

As Gran said, seems there's something going on that needs to be addressed... As far as when you need to fix it, you could probably keep on boating for years the way it is now.  If it were me though, I'd at least add some kind of above deck pump.

And just so you know what may be the issue, check your transom and stringers as described.

Good Luck  

[fitz73222]

Low scuppers are like being Irish; you just have to deal with what god gave you!

Fitz

[c master]

 It could potentially be like having no balls when it went in the water next spring.

Yeah...that's how I always feel on that first Spring launch...

[imonna 19 6]

To clarify, I dont see it riding any lower this spring than it did last year when i got it. Although I didnt notice it last year, the pictures i took that i checked last week show it did exist.  As far as the water over the transom, now that i have a larger tank i a venture  out river's and harbors and into rips and more boat traffic, so now I am getting the waves.  Last year I stayed in very calm, very protected water since i had a small gas tank and a problematic engine.

I only clarify that because showing progressive sinking is far more alarming than consistently being low since i bought it.

the waterline staining in the previous picture is from just when i got the boat and it is about the same now.

Anyway, I dont plan on ignoring this problem, even if it isn't getting worse..  I will get a bunch of pics tomorrow empty, in the water and at the dock, and some out in the sound.  I'll try to get some details back on here tomorrow night.  


AND I REALLY appreciate all your feedback.  Besides the nuts and bolts of the problem, i appreciate the comments about safety.  

When i bring it home in August i will drill a couple holes and see what i get.

Before to much time passes, i will be installing  an auto pump on the stern with an inlet in the drain catch and an outlet over the top of the transom and i will wire it directly to the battery to temporarily add some safety until we solve this.

If a new transom is in my future, is it an under $2000, 2-4K, or over 4K project.  As you can tell by my range, i have no clue what materials would cost.

[gran398]

 It could potentially be like having no balls when it went in the water next spring.

Yeah...that's how I always feel on that first Spring launch...

First had it "no balls at all" but then changed it to "no balls" for sensitivity and political correctness.

 


imonna,

The slop deflector previously described worked pretty well...caught about 90% of it. Had it on a '79 Hydrasport.

The transom Bondobill just installed looks great...and wasn't much of a fan of poured transoms 'till saw his work. Shoot him a pm. Hopefully he got out pretty reasonably.

Hey, good luck with this...and must remember...its a B.O.A.T.

[bandaidmd]

for whats its worth on my 170 i leave my scupper plugs in and have mounted a small pump(little bigger than the diameter of a beer can) in the corner where the wire chase is and just pump out any splashover or drips from swimming, sure beats several inches of water in the back of the boat. I couldn't get the ball scuppers to work at all it seems the ball would go up against the top of the housing more than against the hole.

[imonna 19 6]

ok.  Here is a good pic in calm water, no people, half a tank of gas.  To recap, no water in bilge, not worse than last year.  When I did drill some transom holes for the new fishfinder bracket, I certainlky didnt get and drips or elaks, but I cant say it was totally dry.




also, could someone with a picture or link to the transom deflectors post it so i could look at them.

and here is one of the many nice fish we pulled out today.

[MarshMarlowe196]

also, could someone with a picture or link to the transom deflectors post it so i could look at them.

Deflectors?  

[gran398]

Nice work! Nice blue!

Soak the fillets in seven-up or mountain dew...they'll taste like grouper

Just got back from the beach (Wrightsville). There was a 70's 19'6 sitting at the dock there. Good shape, rebuilt several years back. 115 2-stroke Yamaha. Owner has passed..boat will be for sale.

Paid particular attention to the scupper position. The boat self-bailed at the dock, plugs out. The scupper holes were very slightly above the waterline.

We'll get this figured out. PM your way manana.

Jess,

Back in the 80's KM fishing, we would screw tall lexan strips to the transom, effectively raising the transom height preventing washover. This was necessary on some boats due to the livewell weight at the stern.

[Circle Hooked]

Soak the fillets in seven-up or mountain dew...they'll taste like grouper

Hate to derail but scott does that really work ?

[fitz73222]

The deflectors are quite common in the Great Lakes. Walleye fisherman use a back troll pattern where they run the outboard in reverse into the current apparently to get better boat control. I have seen actual kits for the purpose.

[imonna 19 6]

I think he meant does the mountain dew trick really work.

I like the idea of the lexan/deflectors.   I still would like to figure out why I am 3-5 inches too low

[fitz73222]

I guess one good way to validate if there is an issue is get the boat weighed at a truck stop, landfill or scrap yard. Your boat is new enough to research the original hull weight. Weigh the trailer separately, the engine weight from the internet, gas tank estimate, acessories, etc. If the boat is in fact sitting too low in the water from the percieved normal draft, it is going to show up on the scale. If we think its sitting 3-5" too deep in the water; thats alot of weight. I would guess an easy 300#+. Atleast then, the perception can be qualified.

[gran398]

Soak the fillets in seven-up or mountain dew...they'll taste like grouper

Hate to derail but scott does that really work ?

Scott, it works like a champ. We use a citrus soft drink they make around here...."Sun Drop".

Tastes like Mt. Dew, but not as sweet. Use the real stuff, not the diet. And 30 minutes is a plenty. We use it on KM and spanish too.

[Circle Hooked]

Gonna have to try that on some macks.