19 6 new gas tank install begins

[imonna 19 6]

I have today off so I am working on it.

I have now removed foam from the entire side and am left with whatever is under the deck.  

I will try the bar and cable through the hose method next.

There is no foam between the coffin end and entering the top of the stringer, just open space, so by process of elimination i am down to whats on top of and right of the stringer.



I'll come back and post

[Capt. Bob]

Before cutting the deck,I would enlarge the hole around the lines inside the coffin,you'll be able to see whats in there and get a tool in to loosen the foam,inside the cofffin will never be seen any way  

I may be wrong but I believe the coffin lies between the stringers (on the inside faces) and the foam (if there is any) between the stringer (outside face) and the right side of the hull. There may be foam in front of the coffin also but I don't know but enlarging the hole around the hoses would reveal that.


EDIT:
Beat me to it. Good luck.

[gran398]

Taking the hole in the coffin idea a step furthur....

If you make the hole big enough, you can get your left hand up in there....then like Fitz was saying, take a piece of rebar and bang the foam on the other side of the stringer. That damn foam is like glue, you're gonna have to mechanically break it.

[imonna 19 6]

Back to the drawing board.

I hooked up a big bolt on fill end, ran 1/4 cable through, hooked it to the come along and started cranking.  The bolt and wire held and I cranked slowly, letting it sit for a bit between cranks.  After about 10 cranks there was so much pressure that the eye bolt (3/8 inch steel)on the garage wall straightened and the come along went flying.

Unless someone has another option, I am down to three
1)  Cut a hole in the lower side of the starboard gunwale and reach under to remove foam'
I hate putting an inspection hatch in the floo (after cutting a hole), so can I reach around the gunwale from the inside to remove the foam.  Is there space at that turn

2) cut an opening in the deck where the lines are laying and remove foam.  How wide is the stringer? so i can avoid it

3) leave these and run the fill/vent to the starboard side of the console.

[Capt. Bob]

After finding foam on my CCP I ran the fill through through the CC. I left the vent in place.

[imonna 19 6]

UPDATE

So i figured I would try again with the bolt/cable/winch idea so off to the hardware store for a stainless Eye bolt, and some other stainless hardware.

Hooked it back up with an improved hold on fill end and a stainless bolt on  the anchor end and cranked it up.  

Maybe some movement, maybe not.  i definitely am compressing the hose on the fill end because it is three inches shorter than when I started, but the coffin end has NOT come out any.

I am going cook dinner and let it sit under pressure for a few hours and see if that does anything.

I really dont want to cut anything open, so any other ideas are appreciated.

Thanks
Bill

[xo4001]

An idea is maybe to try to turn the hose with a pipe wrench
See if you can put something solid in the hose and try to turn in the direction as the steel spiral go’s
Then it will get smaller in diameter and maybe will break loose from the foam
Good luck with your attempts

[feeling2damgood]

i still think going with a slightly smaller hose and running it through the existing hose.
right now you have a perfect tunnel to run through just run a snake through connect new hose and pull. you could be done in 10 min and no cutting on the boat. the worse case is that you have to but the gas pump on the first click instead of wide open.    

[fitz73222]

Not a bad idea if you can find the right size hose that will fit to the existing tank and fill connections. Or maybe find some reducers for each end.

[fitz73222]

www.hosexpress.com/hose/marine/marine.htm

Check out the sizes for the SW469 series. You may be on to something feeling2damgood!

[MarshMarlowe196]

Just a suggestion- but I wouldn't use S/S hardware when trying to remove the hose.  S/S is soft- you want to used some low carbon heat treated steel hardware.  Plus it's a lot cheaper.

So far, you've pulled in one direction.  If you're planning on putting the fill on the gunwale, why not go ahead and cut that glassed-over fill-hole open and try pulling the hose in the other direction.  You're going to have to re-open that hole anyway, unless you decide to put the fill on console.

Worst case scenario, you can't get the hose through the gunwale either, put a fill cap there to make it look right, or go with a rod-holder in its place.

Just my thinking

[imonna 19 6]

Thanks for all the ideas.

I am still working at it.  I thought about pulling it out from the other direction, but the set up would prove to be difficult  because of where i would have to anchor, as well as if it broke free there would probably be some damage to the gunwale.

I left it under pressure all night and it didnt budge.

I am confident that the only way I'll get it out is further cuts.

The possibility of running a smaller hose through is an option I am considering.

For now, I am pondering where to cut a hole if I need to.

There is no foam on the left of the stringer and the foam is removed from the gunwale, so how do I best get the foam from directly under the deck.

Option 1- cut a hole in the right deck storage box and remove what i can and try pulling again.

Option 2- cut a big hole in the side of the guwale, fish out whatever I can ASSUMING I CAN GET MY arm around the turn (anyone know about this), then put this in
http://www.carolinaboatoutfitters.com/c ... te-p-78378

which would give me a functional benefit for the hole I make.

Option 3=cut the deck right over the lines and eventually put in a deck plate that is a tripping hazard in that location.

[kedd]

If you are able to get a mechanic to loan you a borescope you would really be able to see what you are up against.
Just a thought before you start cutting.

http://www.amazon.com/Borescope-Flexibl ... 0161ZWM8/2

Kedd

[GoneFission]

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R ... ogId=10053

http://www.harborfreight.com/digital-in ... 67979.html

[fabuck71]

Put that 11x15 floor hatch in like ElectricalMarine did in front of the gas coffin.  I'm gonna do that also.  I have rebuilt 4 of these now and that will give you the ability to pull those line through.  What happen sometimes is the hose get imbedded in that putty that bonds the floor to the stringers.