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March 16, 2013, 06:52:45 PM
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Re: Miss Delmarva Pics - at last - 1973 22-2 Rebuild
« Reply #1425 on: March 16, 2013, 06:52:45 PM »
hey Bryan, if it makes it any easier, I will be driving down on Thursday and driving back on Sunday. Is getting to ATL easier? PM me your cell number and we can talk about it.
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March 16, 2013, 07:06:20 PM
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« Reply #1426 on: March 16, 2013, 07:06:20 PM »
My day was not fun, as wanted to finish up the Flo-Scan install on the Scarab.  Usually pretty easy, as the senders will mount directly to the fuel/water separators, then the fuel lines off off the senders to the bulbs, good to go...not on the Scarab!  Old style OMC separators, fitting off the top of the bracket, not the sides (like Racors, Sierras, Attwoods, even Yams), and...1/2" threads, not 1/4" like everyone else!  And since I'm just not going to be able to run down to the nearest Ace, HD, or wherever, and by 1/2" X 1/4" street elbow, had to do it the HARD way...basically turning a 1 hour job into about a 3 hour job.  The finished product...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GMlwKFh ... AQ&index=1

The totalizer switch at the end of the vid?  Have to hold it for 15 seconds for it to clear...

Then I got the water pressure hoses in for Scott's boat, so time to run the last of the rigging...2 WP hoses, port motor cables.  Piece of cake, right?  Yeah, right.  Tried to run all at the same time...no effin way.  So pulled the WP hoses through by themselves with a pull wire and a new pull wire, then had to pull each cable individually, basically because I didn't have access to the end of the rigging pipe inside the starboard aft box.  After about 20 tries...all is run, will rig the motors tomorrow complete.

A word of advice for any who are doing rebuilds, and want to know how to do the rigging tubes under the deck.  Do NOT install them such that the end of the tube (or pipe, whatever you want to call it) stops short of where you can reach the end and feel what is going on.  With Miss D, the end of the pipe is shy of the pass through up through the deck by about 15".  The unfortunate aspect of this install is that once rigging exits the tube, it pretty much goes where it wants...left, right, up, down.  You need to be able to guide the rigging once it clears the pipe, and this type of install TOTALLY precludes that from happening.  Miss D's pass through is probably about 4" X 5", which is enough for skinny ole me to get an arm in and feel for stuff...when there is nothing in the tube.  Start to load it up with rigging, and you can kiss the 4 X 5 goodnight, becomes just enough to get a really squeezed hand in there...and HOPE you can feel what you think should be there.

Another thing that this type of setup precludes from happening is to be able to feed from aft to forward.  Many times, especially with larger diameter stuff, it's good to be able to attack the running of the rigging from either end.  Won't go through from fore to aft?  Try it aft to fore.  But when you have a small opening to get below the deck, there is no way you can find the aft end of the rigging tube to start feeding your rigging forward.


So, I'm kinda tired today, dealing with that FloScan and dealing with Miss D.  The phone has been off, and will continue to be off, as I'm doing quite a bit of not so fun work.  We have PMs, my email is either seabob4@tampabay.rr.com, so feel free to use them if you want to discuss something.


Corner of 520 and A1A...

March 16, 2013, 08:01:22 PM
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Re: Miss Delmarva Pics - at last - 1973 22-2 Rebuild
« Reply #1427 on: March 16, 2013, 08:01:22 PM »
Quote from: "slvrlng"
hey Bryan, if it makes it any easier, I will be driving down on Thursday and driving back on Sunday. Is getting to ATL easier? PM me your cell number and we can talk about it.

Thanks very much, I cant call you today, I will speak to you tomorrow.

March 17, 2013, 01:15:59 AM
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Re: Miss Delmarva Pics - at last - 1973 22-2 Rebuild
« Reply #1428 on: March 17, 2013, 01:15:59 AM »
OK, I think I have it sorted out.
We have found a flight from John Wayne here in SA w only 1 hr layover each way.
I will be coming in really late Thursday pm the 4th. So, I need a hotel, (have a rental car).
Let me know of a hotel maybe close to the launch, party house, beach area we will be.
I have Hilton Honor club, so Hilton is better, but just let me know where we will be.



Thanks Bryan

March 17, 2013, 09:26:11 AM
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Re: Miss Delmarva Pics - at last - 1973 22-2 Rebuild
« Reply #1429 on: March 17, 2013, 09:26:11 AM »
Scott,

Please forgive my laziness for not looking back through the thread, but where did you get your SS 22-2 badges made?

Thanks!
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March 17, 2013, 11:23:40 AM
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Re: Miss Delmarva Pics - at last - 1973 22-2 Rebuild
« Reply #1430 on: March 17, 2013, 11:23:40 AM »
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Scott,

Please forgive my laziness for not looking back through the thread, but where did you get your SS 22-2 badges made?

Thanks!

I wouldn't do it either Carl :lol:

The folks that made them don't want to be publicized any longer. Will PM you the info.

Have also had some members asking about the re-chromed rod holders. That info is in the "Resources" forum.

Thanks :thumright:

March 17, 2013, 04:59:08 PM
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Re: Miss Delmarva Pics - at last - 1973 22-2 Rebuild
« Reply #1431 on: March 17, 2013, 04:59:08 PM »
As stated yesterday, today was a day to rig the motors.  Normally, a pair of 75s on "someone elses" boat would take a couple hours tops.  But wanted to make sure Miss D not only was rigged right, but looked right, from an aesthetic standpoint.  So a lot of studying, trial runs, temporary placements...here's how she turned out.  And yes, I forgot to pick up #6 hose clamps for the primer bulbs and fuel line while I was out today.  Get 'em tomorrow...



Hardover to starboard...



Hardover to port...



And, all important, with the engines tilted all the way up to ensure all the rigging goes where you want it, no possibilities of kinking any lines/cables or any interferance issues...



Personnaly, I am not a fan of "no splashwell" boats when it comes to rigging motors, as basically the rigging runs across open cockpit space.  But I think it came out OK...

A quick hook up of the binnacle, throw some fuel in the tank, and she could hit the water tomorrow...


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March 17, 2013, 07:28:55 PM
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Re: Miss Delmarva Pics - at last - 1973 22-2 Rebuild
« Reply #1432 on: March 17, 2013, 07:28:55 PM »
Bob,

I know I'm steppin in some real poo poo here but the exit points for the rigging coming out of the box could stand to be further back and vertical instead of horizontal. Starboard on top and port on bottom. That said, I don't know whats going on underneath there with respect to the chase tube exit point and fuel filter interference. My goal is to not unleash any demons and I acquiesce to any criticism I have earned by pointing this out. Fabricate some sort of patch and move them back but I'm not the one writing checks for this so my equity in this is inconsequential.  Sorry Scotty, I didn't talk to you about this first and I have a bit of a Bike Week buzz going on so I beg a thousand pardons...
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2000 Baycraft 175 flats boat, 60 Bigfoot Merc
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March 17, 2013, 08:22:16 PM
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« Reply #1433 on: March 17, 2013, 08:22:16 PM »
Farley,
No toes stepped on.  Had given the vertical orientation some thought, but only saw limited benefits from it, basically the ability to "stack" the rigging, and thus use the upper to support the lower, or visa versa.  Moving it aft?  That puts more of the rigging intruding into the cockpit space as one needs a greater loop to bring the rigging into the motors...IMO.  My goal was to keep the rigging from intruding into the cockpit space at a minimum, yet still provide the rigging the "swing" room it needs through normal operation, as well as extremes (hardovers, full tilt up, etc.).

There are times one must make "management decisions" in regards to various tasks.  Realizing there are a million different "managers" out there, chances are one might get a million different decisions.  And one thing I DON'T like is the securing of the port side rigging to the transom.  Call it a personal issue, but to me, it just doesn't look right...

A non-splashwell boat provides a challenge when it comes to rigging motors...or motor.  Splashwells dictate how we rig a motor, as well as confining the rigging into a specific space.  Open transoms such as Scott's leave what we normally hide wide out in the open.  So one has to weigh several factors in regards to how we rig motors...function, aesthetics, access, that sort of thing.  

I'm very happy with the way the rigging turned out.  That doesn't mean the next guy down the line likes it, but then, he's not the one making the decisions...


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March 17, 2013, 08:34:57 PM
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« Reply #1434 on: March 17, 2013, 08:34:57 PM »
I agree that open transoms are a major challenge to get the rigging just right; especially for twins. Thanks for listening to my viewpoint. Can I purchase some of that braid for the harness and control cables? Mine looks like a dogs breakfast and I would really like to dress up my twins.
Thanks!
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March 17, 2013, 09:04:14 PM
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Re: Miss Delmarva Pics - at last - 1973 22-2 Rebuild
« Reply #1435 on: March 17, 2013, 09:04:14 PM »
Farley,
Got Scott's from fishntech out of Quebec.  Allows you to buy by the foot, whereas most places you have to buy a 50' spool...https://www.fishntech.com/th_rigging_acc.html


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March 17, 2013, 09:49:06 PM
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Re: Miss Delmarva Pics - at last - 1973 22-2 Rebuild
« Reply #1436 on: March 17, 2013, 09:49:06 PM »
Lookin' sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!  :thumleft:
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March 17, 2013, 09:55:04 PM
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Re: Miss Delmarva Pics - at last - 1973 22-2 Rebuild
« Reply #1437 on: March 17, 2013, 09:55:04 PM »
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Bob,

I know I'm steppin in some real poo poo here but the exit points for the rigging coming out of the box could stand to be further back and vertical instead of horizontal. Starboard on top and port on bottom. That said, I don't know whats going on underneath there with respect to the chase tube exit point and fuel filter interference. My goal is to not unleash any demons and I acquiesce to any criticism I have earned by pointing this out. Fabricate some sort of patch and move them back but I'm not the one writing checks for this so my equity in this is inconsequential.  Sorry Scotty, I didn't talk to you about this first and I have a bit of a Bike Week buzz going on so I beg a thousand pardons...
Albeit to late, I was thinking the same thing.

My rigging basically hugs the transom, then down the troth in the deck, followed by a slight loop towards bow, then back to the motor.  Not sure what yours does Farley (with twins), but I wonder if it has anything to with the dry boxes installed (which our boats do not have)?

Bob, any chance we could get a pic from above, to get a view of how far the rigging extends on the deck/fishing/chicken eating space?  :study:
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March 17, 2013, 10:21:51 PM
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« Reply #1438 on: March 17, 2013, 10:21:51 PM »
Scott,
See the bilge hatch just forward of the rigging?  12" exactly to the aft edge from the transom.  The rigging is even with the aft edge, at hardover or tilted all the way up, behind that aft edge.

Work for you?


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March 17, 2013, 11:21:46 PM
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Re: Miss Delmarva Pics - at last - 1973 22-2 Rebuild
« Reply #1439 on: March 17, 2013, 11:21:46 PM »
Looks great Bob,I think if you would have put the rigging any closer to the transom then the bend in the cables would have been too tight and you would need to make a loop to make it work,perfect set up as is :salut:
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