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July 27, 2010, 10:41:48 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2010, 10:41:48 PM »
SB, checked the Taco color options first, prior to more research. The closest they offer in production is that same teal-blue. But if your friend can offer to match, on a custom run, that would be awesome. Taco is renowned for superior products. Thanks, hoping you'd jump on.

Skoot, you're right, we need to have the exact, and correct color for production. Certainly Lewis has experience here as well. If its okay with you both, would you guys agree to work on the correct color? Whatever method you guys agree upon, regarding acceptable and reproduceable palette, would be great. Gotta go with what you know, and you guys know your biz.

One way or the other.....the 70's are now.

Thanks....we're gonna get 'er done.

July 28, 2010, 10:19:44 AM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2010, 10:19:44 AM »
Scott,
I'll email Dennis today, see what his thoughts are as far as "doability" and cost.  What do you think, a 500' run?  We used to get our insert material at AS in 100' rolls, which I'm sure they can do, or perhaps specify what length you guys want the individual rolls to be.

Bob


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July 28, 2010, 10:40:33 AM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2010, 10:40:33 AM »
That'd be awesome SB. I'd inquire what their minimum would be, with the knowledge that they would most likely have ongoing demand for the product.

100 foot rolls, that's basically two boats per roll.

Hey thanks! Will hold tight here....much appreciated!

July 28, 2010, 12:14:17 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2010, 12:14:17 PM »
Scott,
Just got off the phone with Lewis, he's got a little piece coming to him from Marine Connections so we should be able to get the color right.  I'll let you know the outcome of my email to Dennis, post back in a bit...


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July 28, 2010, 01:47:30 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2010, 01:47:30 PM »
Well, here's the deal guys.  We can get it...all 10,000'!  Almost 2 miles!  That's Taco's minimum to color match.  But the price is good...

Dennis recommended me a marine salvage outfit in Clearwater, Don's Marine Salvage, 49th st. N just south of Ulmerton.  Anybody know it?


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July 28, 2010, 03:04:29 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2010, 03:04:29 PM »
Holy :*:! Put it on Lew's credit card!

Tried some more salvage places in Fl. yesterday, but not Don's. Crazy here, will call them later...tx!

July 28, 2010, 04:04:04 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2010, 04:04:04 PM »
Scott, just got off the phone with Don's, they suggested Taco.  Called River Marine in Miami, figured the proximity to Hialeah may help, he suggested Taco...

Damn, thought this would be easy...


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July 29, 2010, 12:55:24 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2010, 12:55:24 PM »
Okay, we're on. Just spoke with the owner of Barbour Plastics. SB, he told me that he received your e-mail from yesterday. So what follows is probably what he told you in his reply.

He purchased Barbour Plastics in 1980. Prior to that he worked for another rubrail company. He doesn't know who originally made the 70's rubrails....but moot point I guess...they're long gone.

So he's willing to make a run for us....1000 feet, of which we need to speak for 500 feet. He'll keep the other 500 feet for his stock.

He needs a sample of what we need and the color. Lewis is getting a piece sent to him that he was told was purchased from Aquasport. So, the color should be spot-on. Fitz made a good point last night; to verify the original color, we can use the inside of an end-cap...never been exposed to UV. He also mentioned that the badge color was the exact match to the rubrail color....so Flkeysaqua has that color on hand too. We're getting closer.

When I tear down the 22-2 in November I can send him a piece of mine. Or, if anyone has some handy, we can do it now.

Bottom line: Whoever is interested, let me know. Will need deposits to place the order. Don't know how much it will cost, didn't ask, just wanted to begin the discussion. But, we'll be buying AT COST. At fifty feet per boat, we need ten boats.

So, who may be interested? I know we have at least three at present..Lewis, myself, and Fitz. Need seven more.

Thanks guys!

Scott

July 29, 2010, 05:24:17 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2010, 05:24:17 PM »
Definitely count me in for sure! Can he also do the end caps?
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July 29, 2010, 05:53:02 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2010, 05:53:02 PM »
Scott,
That is AWESOME!  Well done sir! :cheers:  :cheers:


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July 29, 2010, 06:32:33 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2010, 06:32:33 PM »
Will do, and tx! I am presuming they will do a run of caps too.

One good thing....he was hoping once we sent the samples that he would have the correct color mix on hand....which he said would save quite a bit of money.

Hey thanks SB! Hopefully the news will spread and we'll have enough boats to get rolling! Looking forward to Lew getting the sample....

July 29, 2010, 06:36:33 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2010, 06:36:33 PM »
Yes you I`m in, now you know only the 22-2 guys need 50ft. The 19-6 and 170 guys dont need 50 ft. So I think the best way to handle this is set up a list of 22-2, 19-6, and 170 guys who are interested using the 2X centerline lenght + 5 ft equation. Then we can figure out the yield.  I know this complicates the yield equations but we can keep it reasonable for everyone. Now the rail is going to be FOB to somewhere or is the OEM going to cut lenght and ship individually per order. That would be best and keep everyone on their on financial path and not saddle one guy for the full monty and hope everyone who pledged annies up. Any 240 or 246 takers out there? Somebody PM a price per foot if thats been negotiated.

Very cool,
Thanks so much
Fitz
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July 29, 2010, 08:23:33 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2010, 08:23:33 PM »
Fitz, everything you've said sounds good. The 50 foot per each was just a number he mentioned; I agree the way to go is use your formula..... If/as soon as we hit the 500 feet, I'll call and get a quote, and find out if he'll cut and ship us individually.

I have NO CLUE what it will run per foot, really didn't want to talk money straight off, just wanted to test the waters and see if he would help us. So if we can get enough commitments to reach the 500 feet, I'll be able to negotiate.

The board has my word I won't make a dime on this. Getting her restored to nice condition is satisfaction a plenty.

Dealing straight with the manufacturer, we're cutting out someone's 35% margin.

So we'll set it up in terms of boat lengths required, and hopefully we'll make the magic number!

Thanks!

July 29, 2010, 09:00:23 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2010, 09:00:23 PM »
Thanks for looking into this! I'm in even if I have to buy a 50' length. It would be great if we can get the white insert from them too.
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July 30, 2010, 08:27:37 PM
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Re: Green rubrail, revisited
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2010, 08:27:37 PM »
When I redid my 170 for the 2nd time back in '00 I tossed the green rubrail and put a purdy black one on - OOPS! Mine had the vinyl rope in it too.
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