New to me 1978 200CCP 185 Johnson

[fitz73222]

Hey Nightimefishn,

I suspect stuck rings from carbon on your 185. Get some Valvetech or equivelant and decoke the engine per the intructions and see if the compression raises. That engine should have plenty of punch for that boat without going down to 15" of pitch.

[nightimefishn]

Excellent, you guys are the best. As I said I am really excited about this boat. I absolutely love the hull, it is my first center console and dont think I will ever go back to cuddy again....

Anyway on to some of my questions.
Re core what exactly does that mean? I am not the best when it comes to fiberglassing ( I tried on my last boat and it was a disaster), so please bear with me. Throw any type of electronics or computer issues at me and I can take care of my own. But to be honest the idea of ripping up the plywood and messing with that scares me to death!

The previous owner told me the original owner abandoned the gas tank, he has a 12 gallon portable which I am going to have to deal with until I figure out what I am going to do long term. So I will keep a couple 12 gallon tanks on board for the meantime.
But I am planning on working on her all day on Sunday, going to re wire and mount the batteries and re run all the wiring and cables really neaten up under the console. The back starboard side hatch area needs attention BIG time. I looked in there and it is total spaghettio!!I picked up the bilge pump and it started to run, so I need to take a look at wiring and the rest of that mess. The previous owner also installed a water cock valve in that area, said it was leaking originally and he fixed it. From the looks of "his handy work" I need to keep an eye on that also.

Sorry kind of rambling here.

A couple questions:

1.The drain holes in the rear of the boat. Should I be getting water in there on the deck when I am at sea anchored up? I noticed it was kind of pooling in that area when I was out last weekend? Now the bilges werent working at that time but I thought they were just to remove the water form the bilge? Again I apologize my terminology may not be correct so please correct me when I am wrong.
2. Anyone have an idea where I may find cushions for this leaning post (or even who made this thing maybe it is custom but I cannot find it anywhere on the net) . I really like it and like the design. I plan on adding my stainless rod holders also.






Thanks Fitz I will give that a try.

This forum is great looking forward to speakign with all you guys during my "upgrade"....

Fishon~

[Capt. Bob]

1.The drain holes in the rear of the boat. Should I be getting water in there on the deck when I am at sea anchored up? I noticed it was kind of pooling in that area when I was out last weekend? Now the bilges werent working at that time but I thought they were just to remove the water form the bilge? Again I apologize my terminology may not be correct so please correct me when I am wrong.

Fishon~

Here's how they work.

viewtopic.php?p=27098#p27098

The rubber expandable plugs like these work well.

http://www.bellrpg.net/bottomsup/MA/gro ... 1&GRP=2170

NTF,
The reference to "ping pong ball" scuppers does not pertain to the CCP models and would not work.
I've used the plugs since I've owned mine and they work very well.

[nightimefishn]

Excellent thank Capt Bob. That is very usefull information! Much appreciated.

[GoneFission]

The outlets should be above the waterline, but may let some water in if someone stands in the aft corner of the boat.  You may have a problem if water comes in with the boat at rest and you are standing in the middle of the boat.  Check out the following:

Is the livewell by the transom full of water?  That's about 100 lbs in exactly the wrong place and will also cause problems planing the boat.  I really don't know any CCP owners who actually use that rear livewell regularly.  Drain it, close the valve, and you will probably be better off.  

Check the bilge and make sure water is not accumulating there and the bilge pump float switch is working.  Be sure to caulk the seams in the livewell.  It's amazing how much water can get inside the bilge from those seams if they are not caulked.  Try the 4200UV caulk, as it does not yellow like 5200 when exposed to sunlight.  

If you've done all the above and the scuppers are still under water, you may have wet foam in the stringers or hull.  That ain't fun.  The sides of the hull (between the liner and the hull) are foamed, and the area under the deck on the outsides of the stringers is foamed.  The center under-deck area is open, with an under-deck box molded into the bow section.  You can fix wet foam under the deck by digging it out or making a water path aft for drainage.  Wet stringers are another issue, and require a serious rebuild.  

If you are doing some wiring and upgrades, consider moving the batteries from the spashwell up under the console.  That takes another 100+ lbs off the stern of the boat and moves it forward.  

Hope this helps - now let's go fishin!

[GoneFission]

Somewhere I did a post on recoring the tank cover, but can't find it.  Here's tank replacement - step by step:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2597  

Good luck!

[gran398]

Good points made, especially concerning weight in the stern. Best to get the excess weight (batts., etc.) forward. Trend has been to position the weight forward, including fuel cells.

Our hulls have always planed quickly. Tab her down, and take advantage of a hull in the water.

[nightimefishn]

Thanks guys. Batteries were already removed from the rear and put in the center console. I just need to clean up the mess and mount the batteries. I saw a rebuild Capt Koz did on his 200CCP, I love how he installed lights under the center console I plan on doing that also. Tomorrow morning out for some fishing and water trials with me mechanic. Going to look at this hole shot issue. Going to try a different prop. He thinks he has a 17 Pitch somewhere.

Then Sunday will be starting the real work. I will have plenty of pictures this weekend.

Thanks everyone for all of your help and advice. I am sure there will plenty of more questions that come up.

Weekend is FINALLY here, calling for beautiful weather all weekend for a change. Its been real snotty here in NY the past few days. Looking forward to it breaking.


Fishon~

[nightimefishn]

AND I just realized something looking at the registration my boat is actually a 1979!!!

Man, now I need to change all my signatures and such......

Anything change from 78 to 1979?

[GoneFission]

CCPs from 1978 to 1980 were basically all the same.  The first big change year was 1981, when the console and spashwell were redesigned.

[Hardwater]

Looks like you found a good one, NTF.  Welcome!

You've already got good info from some of 800 lb. gorillas here (meant in the best possible way, guys ) - a great site, period.

When you have a chance post it here....

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3847&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

[RickK]

AND I just realized something looking at the registration my boat is actually a 1979!!!

Man, now I need to change all my signatures and such......

Anything change from 78 to 1979?

Have you located the HIN "stamp" in the hull on the outside transom Starboard side, below the rubrail?  Check that and see if it shows the year.

[222 ccp dgraf]

welcome, great to see another ccp on here. It's a great boat you will love it. Check out www.greatlakesskipper.com for a t top. I bought a damaged one from a salvaged mako for $300 from them and with a few days work welding I have a very nice t top. shipping was the killer at about $250.00. Beleive it or not the t top got more damaged in shipping and they ended up refunding all my money and I just paid the shipping! Goodluck

[nightimefishn]

OK I finally got out yesterday. Saturday was a wash for me, worked really night and was exahusted on Saturday. Anyway I was able to take a few more pictures of my boat.











AND the absolute best part of the day, getting out with some of my family and CATCHING FISH!!!

[nightimefishn]

Now on to some of the details of my testing.

I am at 4500 RPM WOT at about 29KTS according to GPS.
I was very impressed with how this boat handled yesterday. I am very much looking forward to this boat. Plenty of room. I wasnt able to get a prop this past weekend but I think this engione runs real real strong.

So for now thats about all I got. I will be scouring the internet looking for a 14 1/4 17 prop. If anyone comes across a steal please keep me in mind.

I also think I may have found a t top frame for next to nothing and have located a hard top. I should be in pretty good shape for this season.

Thanks all talk to you soon.

FishOn~