222 CCP Rebuild

[Keith Knecht]

My next project off on the side of the road after the truck sprung a leak in the radiator.  Seven hours until the tow truck arrived. The boat was "free," I borrowed the trailer from a friend,   but it cost $1000      to get the truck fixed.


This is a 1980/81 model with the splash well that takes up about half of the usable space in the back of the boat


The first step is to remove the splash well. And that's all I've done so far.


As you can see by the pictures, someone had already done a lot of prep work before I got the boat.    I'm not too happy with a section of the deck that they replaced in the bow area where the coffin had been.  I will probably tear that up and re do it.

Interestingly enough, the bait well was bonded to a piece of plywood and the plywood was bonded to the transom.  That was a little fun getting that loose but not bad. The plywood was good and so is the transom. I'm thinking about cutting out the old bait well and incorporating it in the new deck piece but moving it foward as far as it will go in the cutout.  I will probably use it as a fish box or under deck storage.  

More to come.

[Capt. Bob]

Looks good Keith.
That splash well is the biggest fault of the older CCPs. My 84 is the same way.
It also a great place to allow water into the bilge in a following sea.

[Keith Knecht]

Hey Capt Bob,

Thanks!

They removed the splashwell in 87 and put in a splash gate that folded down into a recessed deck area.  I have a lot of ideas about what I'm going to do back there but deck wise, it will be similar to the 87. I'm thinking about twins with a 25 " foot. I like that for reliability but not the weight.  Probably end up with a big single. If I go with the twins, I'll need to raise the transom 5", or I may go with a bracket and platform. Even if I do, I will not close in the transom completely.  I will probably use a full height splash board that will fold down.  That will allow me to walk through out onto the swim platform so I can get around the motor when fighting large sharks. Can't make up my mind about using the coffin or making below deck storage like in the later model CCP's.  Still in the planning stage mostly.

[LilRichard]

My $0.02:

Use the coffin, and put storage under it too - like the newer YellowFins.  Can't find any pics, but they basically put the coffin on hinges so the bottom of the coffin serves as a lid for storage underneath.  Make sense?

[Capt. Bob]

My $0.02:

Use the coffin, and put storage under it too - like the newer YellowFins.  Can't find any pics, but they basically put the coffin on hinges so the bottom of the coffin serves as a lid for storage underneath.  Make sense?

 

Yes Sir!

[Keith Knecht]

Thanks Lil Richard,

I haddn't thought of that but it makes good sense.  I'm gonna work on that idea. That would certainly give you enought storage to keep the deck clear.

[222 ccp dgraf]

I always wondered why my 88 222 did not have that splashwell. Now I know they stopped doing it. I am in midst of a total rebuild on a very damaged (should have been junked) 222 ccp. I closed my transom sides in a little so as to only fit a single and will either put a permanent or flip down splash well door. I run a 10 inch jack plate bracket so the door does not need to be lowered to fully raise the outboard. I know many on here close there transoms in fully and run full brackets but up here on lake Erie that is not very popular and normally makes the boat porpous alot in the chop we have here...most regret doing it. Would love to have some chat friends working on same boat and get and give advice too. Good luck. Dave

[Capt. Bob]

I know many on here close there transoms in fully and run full brackets but up here on lake Erie that is not very popular and normally makes the boat porpous alot in the chop we have here...most regret doing it.

Two words:
Trim tabs  

[222 ccp dgraf]

Many people from Florida come to Northern Ohio on Lake Erie in the summer months and all say that the short chop on the lake Erie is no comparison to the chop on the ocean. Many say this is one of the roughest lakes in the world as it is so shallow and so large. Boat breakage up here is so common. I have seen Bayliners and cheap built boats break up on mild days. Unless you want to ride along with trim tabs down all the time brackets just don't do well up here. Most don't advise it. I have been in many that with a little chop start to porpous bad. You would have to understand our lake and the conditions here..........Funny how so few manufacturers use brackets anymore, you never see them on the top end boats. It may work down there for you guys but not so good up here. thanks

[RickK]

Almost all the new boats have integrated swim platforms/brackets.  I don't know of an offshore boat mfr that just hangs the motors on the transom anymore - there maybe some but it's certainly not common down here anyway.

[Capt. Bob]

I certainly can't argue Lake Erie conditions but the Gulf of Mexico is pretty damn shallow in a lot more places and is just a little larger but it may have to do with wind conditions and boat traffic we don't experience down here. As far as operating with the tabs down, that's what they're there for. As for porpoising, a lot of hulls will do just that if overtrimmed and moving the motor back (think bracket) agravates the situation so; put a bracket on and use tabs or don't over trim. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

[222 ccp dgraf]

The bracket question seems to be a never ending one, Some and most swear by them when done right i.e. moving gas tanks, consoles forward, etc. Up here it is just not very popular and if you ask around you find out why. We have a very high chop up here with extremely short swells. The wind out of canada can stir things up fast. I have had my share of boats here and feel it is mostly a quality and size thing. Seems 23's and down do great and then you have to go to about a 32 and bigger to bridge the chop in between just falls in the swells and beats the heck out of ya. Edgewaters, Regulators are a high end boats and most have no bracket or built in swim platform. Today we have a hard wind out of the South the waves are 8 + feet and due to the wind the lake level has dropped about 5 feet on the south shore....many boats are sitting in mudd. Anyway getting off topic, If you decide on a bracket just do your homework, make sure if you go big it is a floatation bracket. I have met in the middle with a 10" jack plate and an enclosed splash well with my deck drains draining out the rear corners of the deck to through hulls on the port and starboard side. I will move my console up a few inches (It is about three times heavier then in stock form as I fully cored it to support a t top) and I will shorten up my fuel tank as well to move some weight forward and gain some rear storage. 85 gallons of fuel is a little much for here.  She is a great looking boat and sounds like you got a great deal on it. Much nicer then mine as mine I think rolled down a highway or was at about 10,000 feet in a tornado! I have been in many boats up here and unless you got $75,000 to spend I have never had a better ride then my 222 ccp. I have owned Gradys...never again, Mako's.....a lot of pounding, and pursuits...nope. I will take my Aqua over any of them so the work is worth it! Take care

[Keith Knecht]

Couldn't find an original AS console but did get one from a Robalo which should end up looking pretty nice after the holes are filled and it's painted.  Of course the teak will go back on and then it should be pretty nice.
It is just the right width to cover the rigging holes in the deck. There was a seat moulded to the front which I removed to allow the coffin to butt up against it.  Will have to close that in too.   I plan to move the console foward about 9" since all of my AS's have ridden bow high and I think this will not only help but give me a little more room in back.
The sides and transom are primed also.

I know I should have a plan but that's just the way things are going right now.  I have to use the help I can when I can.

[Capt. Bob]

The removal of the splashwell really opens up the stern.
Lookin good!

[Keith Knecht]

Here's a pic with the cap and inside gunnels primered.