1973 22.2 redo ===== SOLD!!!!!

[gran398]

Just a quick note....after mulling over my boat for weeks as what to do with it and the continuing structure issues, I have dropped my boat off with Eugene at Shipoke Boats.  I went to his shop and after meeting with him feel very comfortable with my decision and so far the experience has bar none!  I'm sure Eugene won't mind posting a few pics as the new deck goes down for viewing with the forum.  I am very excited with knowing the quality work that his shop will be doing on my boat and look forward to putting her on the water in a few months!

Great news. The members are big on Shipoke for good reason.

I know from speaking with Eugene that he feels badly about the circumstances surrounding you guy's repairs. He hates that ya'll  were delivered inferior, and in some cases, potentially dangerous work.

The good news is, as Captain Betz says...when it leaves there...its right

[CaptSteveBetz]

I am confident that when you get your boat back from Shipoke you will be able to enjoy it, and hopefully put your bad experience behind you.


When I mounted my Porta Bracket (with optional swim platforms) I had to lag bolt the two lower holes at the platforms. According to Scott Porta that was OK to do but all the center mounting areas needed to be through bolted.

There is a lot of stress in that center area of the bracket. I cant imagine why anyone would think lag bolting it would be sufficient.

[Group W Bench]

Sorry for the delay in responding. I had a bit of a shiner on my left eye that I have been tending to.



Doctor swears the swelling will go down soon, but I'm really beginning to miss depth perception.

Shortpants and Steve, thanks for the vote of confidence. Steve, your swim platform bolts were 1/2 inch bolts threaded into the tapped ceramic of the transom. This is an acceptable practice for the swim platform bolts. What is not acceptable is what we discovered when breaking down Shortpant's boat. The bottom bolts on the Porta Bracket were not bolts at all, but rather 1/2 x1.5 inch stainless lag screws driven into a wood transom with a small dab of white silicone. Coupled with white plastic 1.5 inch thru hulls below the waterline, bilge thru hulls "glued" into place with white silicone due to clearance of the nut, exposed and unsealed wood on every transom fitting, and a myriad of other fit and finish issues, suffice it to say that the boat was effed up as a mayonaisse biscuit.

I don't like getting recently restored boats into our shop under these types of circumstances, b/c you guys spent a good deal of money on the prior restoration, and simply did not get what you paid for in my opinion. Rest assured, however, that when it leaves our shop, it will be right.

[seabob4]

Eugene, now mayonnaise has it's place...but can't say I've ever heard of it on a biscuit!  Are you saying what you found is the work of the recent re-build?  Holy chit!!!

And who punched you...Gabe?

[seabob4]

Oft times, with transom t/hulls and other hardware, one finds that the backing nut either won't sit flush top the mating surface due to irregular glass buildup, or due to a larger fitting being installed to where a radius is now preventing the nut from seating.  The only fix?  Break out the die grinder or surface grinder and remove the glass to allow the nut to sit flush when tightened down.  Only way to do it.

And lagging (even if it was just the bottom "bolts") a Porta-Bracket on?  Jeezus Christ...

[gran398]

Eugene...you okay bud?

[seabob4]

Eugene...you okay bud?

Sure he is...he's smiling!  As the old comment goes..."You should see the other guy!!!"

[CaptSteveBetz]

Sorry for the delay in responding. I had a bit of a shiner on my left eye that I have been tending to.



Doctor swears the swelling will go down soon, but I'm really beginning to miss depth perception.

Shortpants and Steve, thanks for the vote of confidence. Steve, your swim platform bolts were 1/2 inch bolts threaded into the tapped ceramic of the transom. This is an acceptable practice for the swim platform bolts. What is not acceptable is what we discovered when breaking down Shortpant's boat. The bottom bolts on the Porta Bracket were not bolts at all, but rather 1/2 x1.5 inch stainless lag screws driven into a wood transom with a small dab of white silicone. Coupled with white plastic 1.5 inch thru hulls below the waterline, bilge thru hulls "glued" into place with white silicone due to clearance of the nut, exposed and unsealed wood on every transom fitting, and a myriad of other fit and finish issues, suffice it to say that the boat was effed up as a mayonaisse biscuit.

I don't like getting recently restored boats into our shop under these types of circumstances, b/c you guys spent a good deal of money on the prior restoration, and simply did not get what you paid for in my opinion. Rest assured, however, that when it leaves our shop, it will be right.

Sorry I meant to say they were tapped and 1/2 stainless bolts were used ONLY on the swim platform bracket. Of course I could of not used bolts with all the 5200 I had used according to you.

Take care of that shiner. I may stop by this week.

[Group W Bench]

I'm fine, just really sore. Backyard MMA after a bad Bucs game and a six pack is generally a pretty poor idea, even with the oversized boxing gloves. The other guy got it pretty bad from 2 roundhouse kicks to the ribs and a spinning back kick to the back of the head. One front kick ended up with my flip flop flying into his head like a projectile. Unfortunately, that big cornbread and titty milk raised country boy had some seriously heavy hands. I went up to block a right hook and whacked myself right in the eye with the backside of my left wrist. There is no padding on the back of those gloves. The back of my wrist actually hurts worse than my eye. Just a word of caution, never spar with a guy who raises his own bees and uses his own trackhoe to lift outboard engines on/off of transoms. He will whip your arse.

The doctor would not lance it to relieve pressure for fear of infection. He was not impressed with the Rocky impersonation of , "Come on, cut me Mick". He, like my wife, thinks I'm an idiot.

[love2fish]

you shouldnt take a Buc's loss so badly- we've been doing it for years! haha
get some ice on that thing! sheesh!

[gran398]

Man!

Well, if I ever need any azz-whippin' done, I'll fly you up here

In the meantime, I hope you get well soon

[Group W Bench]

I ought not be flying anywhere to do some azz whoopin'. It was yours truly who got hucklebucked, not the other way around.

[fishinonthebrain]

I'm fine, just really sore. Backyard MMA after a bad Bucs game and a six pack is generally a pretty poor idea, even with the oversized boxing gloves. The other guy got it pretty bad from 2 roundhouse kicks to the ribs and a spinning back kick to the back of the head. One front kick ended up with my flip flop flying into his head like a projectile. Unfortunately, that big cornbread and titty milk raised country boy had some seriously heavy hands. I went up to block a right hook and whacked myself right in the eye with the backside of my left wrist. There is no padding on the back of those gloves. The back of my wrist actually hurts worse than my eye. Just a word of caution, never spar with a guy who raises his own bees and uses his own trackhoe to lift outboard engines on/off of transoms. He will whip your arse.

The doctor would not lance it to relieve pressure for fear of infection. He was not impressed with the Rocky impersonation of , "Come on, cut me Mick". He, like my wife, thinks I'm an idiot.

As a Saints fan we enjoyed the win but like most games it was a nail biter to the end.  

Hope you get better soon and love the work your shop puts out.

[Group W Bench]

Fishinonthebrain,

Thanks for the kind words about the shop. I'm less impressed with the game, although I was asking "who dat" after getting my eye dotted. Old Gran398 saw the video of the bout, so at least one CA member has seen both the arse whoopin in conjunction with the whoopin received. At the end of the day, much like the Bucs, despite holding our own early on, we both got hucklebucked.

[gran398]

Yep, I  saw the video. It was after dark, there were two guys. One was a 19 year old blonde buck with his shirt off......the other was a shorter guy in a gray T shirt.

The video was taken by a bunch of howling folks that were having a damn good time. It wasn't a "fight" per se...more of a backyard MMA exhibition. Both athletes wore boxing gloves, no headgear, and seemed friendly at first.

The round begins.

Bruce Lee is posturing on the young buck. The buck is game, but apprehensive. Bruce begins the action with a big time roundhouse left foot to the kidney. You can hear it. The buck is stunned. The crowd roars.

Second strike, Bruce executes a spinning back kick to the head of the buck. Buck never sees it coming. It was pretty too. Buck doubles over. The crowd REALLY hoots on this one.

By now, Buck is seeing the truth. He lashes out in desperation. He mounts a bull rush charge. Hits Bruce with a right hand...on the dark video, didn't look like much. Wouldn't call it a hook, or a straight right. More of a loping overhand. But it's dark. Bruce blocks it, but his glove was crushed into his eye. Bruce described the buck's blow as "heavy handed."

Bruce is a badass in my book. The buck was bigger, taller, and younger. But you should have seen Bruce in action. He was doing all of this neat stuff with his hands, and making cool shrieking noises for the fans. It was deshitt

I've asked Bruce to hang up the gloves. At some point we all have to give up good clean fun with nineteen year old roofers and sheet rock boys

You did good tho bud...those kicks were quick, accurate, and hard. For sure the kid knows. Way to call it done