1973 22.2 redo ===== SOLD!!!!!

[gran398]

Very stout, you did a great job belowdecks. On the interior hull sides....hopefully longitudinal supports/fillets were added underneath the deck, glassed to the interior hull sides on the long run between bulkheads, as support for the outer edge floor install.

[shortpants]

I know that the work that I went to the shop prior is very good work and in some places, heavier then needed.  Gran, as far as any supports along the sides as I stopped by every now and then I believe the shop only used the bulkheads for support when laying the deck down on the sides and nothing was added on the sides.  That being said, nothing was added in the back along the transom either in between the knees which in my opinion, I'm not an expert, should have been done based on how long the bulk head hatch is.  You can stand to either side and even on top of that hatch and watch it bounce.  

A friend of mine stopped by last week to pick up the lid for the livewell.  He told me that the shop owner was upset that he just stopped by...that was after several messages were left and calls were made prior to stopping by but he didn't answer.  Anyway, my friend quickly told him if he'd answered the phone and checked his messages he would have known.  While getting the lid, the shop owner asked my friend to show him where the cracks were on another rebuild he was doing.  His exact comment to my friend, "I don't think it's the floor, the transom is probably flexing."  Again, I feel it's an issue with no supports being put between the knees under the floor and maybe and additional bulkhead or two around where he placed that hatch.  This issue along with some of the other are quick fixes if he were to just make arrangments with me.

I invite anyone on this forum who lives within the Tampa Bay area to PM me an stop by and look at the floor and form your own opinions.   I am open to any and all suggestions regarding what might be the cause of the floor separating/cracking along the transom.  I am more then confident that's it's not the transom.

I also wanted to mention..THANKS for all the support.   Although I have not meant anyone on here in person it's comforting to know that in today's society that as long as you have a common interest you will always have a support network!!!

[RickK]

Did you do the transom? If so and if anything like the stringer work you did, should be stout.

[xtremekline]

FYI .Went by the place that bought my tower ,seen some work he was doing on a 73 222 .
they do full restorations and repairs on any classic boats, if any one is interested .The quality was awesome.
The name is Shipoke boats ,they build flats boats, located in Safety harbor The owner is really great and has been helping me move forward with my 67 222. Here are just a couple pics I took

[seabob4]

That would be Eugene...

[xtremekline]

Yes, nice guy and I recently fished one of his 18 foot flats boat,really nice work

[wessnapp]

My two cents:  

Bring it to Eugene and walk away from the company in question.  Eugene will take good care of fixing what needs to be fixed.  There will be added expense, but to a trust worthy, notable guy who will stand by his work.  Plus he is ever present in the forums and does rely on word of mouth.

Bringing it back to the company in question will end up being a drawn out process in which your boat will sit there forever and be cosmetically fixed if that.  I don't see this builder pulling up the deck, fixing what needs to be fixed, and re-doing the rest for what he knows will be expected as part of what has already been paid.  Heck, you paid him once and it wasn't done right then.  I am sure you can see that asking him to do it again for "free" is not reality.  

All that being said, my sincere apologies for this unfortunate experience.  Went through something like this last year on a substantially smaller scale and can imagine where your head's at.

[gran398]

Eugene does high quality work at a fair price. I have done business with Shipoke, they do what they say at the price agreed, and on time.

The photos shown are of a new 22-2 rebuild...check out the integrated livewell....sa-weet

[shortpants]

Update, finally got in contact with the shop and kinda-sorta set up a date to drop the boat off to have the deck looked at.  I am having two other shops give me a quote.  Either way, am moving forward one way or another with the boat to get it the way she needs to be.  I recenlty finally was able to afford some vinyl and aluminum work and added the livewell seat, cushion in front of the center console and cooler cushion.  Looks great with the added vinyl!  I do need a tilt helm though since putting the seat on the livewell doesn't afford much room to squeeze by.  

[Capt Matt]

tilt helms don't last very long compared to a regular helm
If at all possible stay with the regular helm
Capt Matt

[shortpants]

So for anyone interested in what two other glass shops had to say after I ran it by them, pm me.  Very interesting!  It's amazing that both shops said exactly the same thing about the deck that was put down.  At this point, not sure what to do.  At what point do you just say the heck with it and either sell or whatever?  One guy at a shop did tell me that the boat is worth the repair since the hull is very straight and it's rare to find such a straight hull.  Whatever that means..... I'm not sure.  For sale!!!!!  All offers considered.lol

While towing the boat around, must have had 8 cars pull up beside me and put their thumbs up.  She really is pretty and turns head!!

Shorts(aka-discouraged)  new name ...lol

[seabob4]

She looks sweet!  

Do yourself a favor.  Step back, take many deep breaths over the course of some days, and reassess your situation.  At least do yourself that favor...what the ball peens (get my drift?) have done is is not going to sink the boat, it is fixable, and will most likely degrade only to a certain point with usage of the boat.

But don't feel by any means like it is time to get rid of the boat.  Obviously, indicated by the looks and comments you got, she is a sweetheart.  So take due dilligence and insist that the ball peens take care of the matter.  They are the ones who effed it up, afterall...

[gran398]

I know exactly how you feel. I've been screwed over a bunch, mostly in the last five years (Great Recession)...it still shocks me how people can knowingly and purposefully stick you in the back, and then twist the knife for good measure. Not saying that's what happened to you. But regardless, it is no fun, and actually very depressing.

I'm with Bob....take a step back, take some deep breaths, and assess the situation over the next several days. You have two estimates both pointing out the same shortcomings. Think it through, plan the work, and work the plan.

[gwhitley]

Haven't checked out this thread in a while, but I like pulling it up and seeing a couple of pics of my boat!  Guys at Shipoke will certainly do a good job for anyone who is looking for or needs someone.

[gwhitley]

By the way, that tower of yours is going on that boat, I think it'll be a perfect setup.