1969 to 1971 (?) Aquasport 19-1 Osprey Rebuild Soon

[GarrettS]

I bought this boat in 1998 in Poland Springs ME. It had a 1978 85hp Mercury. The trailer is home made (not by me). I have to say that the trailer tows really nicely, but is ugly as ...

I have been looking through all the great rebuilds on this website and must say that you guys are pretty amazing. Thanks for posting all these projects.

When I bought this boat I didn't really know what I had. I thought the boat was from the 70's because of the motor. The previous owner had cut out the casting deck and had screwed plywood down. It was a mess, but I put it in the water anyway. It handled great even with a twenty year old Mercury (when it ran). But then came children... Took the kids out a couple of times but Portsmouth Harbor can be windy and that was that. The boat has sat in my driveway covered for 8 years (maybe more I will have to check the registration).

Well, here I go. I decided that the boat deserved some attention and the deck needs to be replaced. Maybe not the entire deck, but a lot. It was squishy as ... After researching the documents and advertising you have posted I determined that my boat must be a 1969 19-1 Osprey because I have all the same gear as the ads. The seat is original, the console, the teak rod holders, etc...
And my badges, which I intend on remolding or replacing with some of JimCt's masterpieces, are 19-1. The one thing that my boat has that are not part of the original ad are really big stainless steel corner brackets where the transom and side meet. The SS are stamped with the serial number and a max HP so I think they might be original? I will look and see if there was an option. Also, I will post photos ASAP.

Last year I sold the 85hp because it wasn't very reliable and bought a used Yamaha 115hp V4 Saltwater to mount on the back. But before I mounted it I wanted to do some transom work. The transom is solid as a rock but there is a long crack along the whole top. This is where I need advice. The 115hp is a 25" model and my boat has a 20" transom. I didn't really understand this when I bought the 115hp. But can I run the 25" on this transom or should I heighten the transom to 25"? This would help with any oversplash...but might detract from the look of the boat? Any thoughts? I could also buy a 20" lower end unit for the 115hp?

Deck replacement questions- The deck is squishy all over except toward the very rear of the boat. Seems when the console was screwed down there was no sealant and those screws allowed H2O into the ply. That and 40 years=squish.
I would like to keep the well under the seat and the chase for the controls if the deck is good in that area, but wonder if it is stupid to do this when I am planning on redoing the rest of the deck? Any thoughts? I also intend on replacing the foam. It must have H2O in it...any with a heavier engine I would like to keep the boat wt as light as possible. Plus added wt for MT ply... I plan on rebuilding the casting deck as close to original as possible. I intend on using modern hatches instead of the original setup.

The hull looks to be in very good shape. A couple of areas where there are deflection cracks, but overall looks reasonable. I am very excited about getting into this project. I have a little problem until Sept...I am finishing my mba then. I will have a lot more time after that.

Epoxy vs. Polyester? Any thoughts. I see that everyone here uses mostly Polyester resin for there rebuilds. I know epoxy is very expensive...but supposedly bulletproof. I have to say the poly looks fine after 40 years so I am leaning towards poly.

Thanks again for having this site. It is a real resource. I look forward to sharing my rebuild with you.

[slvrlng]

Welcome GarrettS!!! Badonquasport196 extended his transom to fit his 140 Suzy, I have driven his boat and his fix is very strong.Here is a link to his thread
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3737

[RickK]

Welcome aboard GarrettS  :!:  :!:

Well, here I go. I decided that the boat deserved some attention and the deck needs to be replaced. Maybe not the entire deck, but a lot. It was squishy as ... After researching the documents and advertising you have posted I determined that my boat must be a 1969 19-1 Osprey because I have all the same gear as the ads. The seat is original, the console, the teak rod holders, etc...

What does the back bottom of the boat look like?  Any pics?

Last year I sold the 85hp because it wasn't very reliable and bought a used Yamaha 115hp V4 Saltwater to mount on the back. But before I mounted it I wanted to do some transom work. The transom is solid as a rock but there is a long crack along the whole top. This is where I need advice. The 115hp is a 25" model and my boat has a 20" transom. I didn't really understand this when I bought the 115hp. But can I run the 25" on this transom or should I heighten the transom to 25"? This would help with any oversplash...but might detract from the look of the boat? Any thoughts? I could also buy a 20" lower end unit for the 115hp?

The crack is usually the liner coming over the top of the transom - again, pics will help us.

Deck replacement questions- The deck is squishy all over except toward the very rear of the boat. Seems when the console was screwed down there was no sealant and those screws allowed H2O into the ply. That and 40 years=squish.
I would like to keep the well under the seat and the chase for the controls if the deck is good in that area, but wonder if it is stupid to do this when I am planning on redoing the rest of the deck? Any thoughts? I also intend on replacing the foam. It must have H2O in it...any with a heavier engine I would like to keep the boat wt as light as possible. Plus added wt for MT ply... I plan on rebuilding the casting deck as close to original as possible. I intend on using modern hatches instead of the original setup.

Sounds like you're planning on cutting out the sole anyway so I recommend that route - not very hard if you have basic carpentry skills and use your head - like cutting only deep enough to cut through the deck, etc. - and ask a lot of questions if in doubt of anything.

[GarrettS]

Thanks for the quick responses. I had to resize the images in order to upload. Hopefully they will load this time. These photos are from last summer when I started the project. I got to the point where I was too busy and not knowledgeable enough to continue until now. Plus the cold weather arrived. I bought a Shelterlogic garage to keep the boat dry and the leaves out. I tried to remove the corner brackets but they seem to have been welded in place. I want to inspect the transom more. Thanks for the link to the transom rebuild/heightening. That will be very helpful. I checked the foam today (where possible) and it appears wet up front but not too bad as you move aft. Still I imagine it will all be coming out. Let me know what you think of the transom situation. I can tell the wood feels solid. Very dense without any sponginess.


Well I tried again to upload but no luck. I guess I have to read the "How to post photos" thread.


My baby

Big SS Brackets and a Long crack

Front deck gone.

Transom detail

[slvrlng]

Check this link out also.
http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php ... 52&start=0
Maddog did a great job and used epoxy. His thread makes some great reading. http://www.FGCI.com is also another great source. bateau2 has links on tutorials on basic mixing and use of products that are great.
About your hull, I have never seen those plates before. When you say "SS" do you mean the serial # or HIN#. I don't think they had regular vins back then( pre 72) and it looks like the plates are covering up where the numbers would be.

[GarrettS]

Lewis, What I meant by SS was "stainless steel". THe brackets are stamped with a serial number and a max hp rating.

[slvrlng]

Thats cool! Is the serial # a long number or is it just really simple?

[GarrettS]

I think it is #378. Very funny huh? I guess they just did it consecutively.  I will take a photo and post it. I don't think these bracket are original because they don't appear in the advertising literature. They might be an option, but I haven't checked that either. I have all the teak holders and the small bow teak support. I am starting to think this console is going to look a little funny with Yamaha digital gauges. Very out of place.

[Menner]

Hello Garrett
I just bought a 19-1 a couple of months ago and mine is a "71" it dose not have a plate that list HP rating or max load or any numbers and I don't have the well in the center in the stern your may be a little newer than mine I ran into a guy with a 19-1 at the boat ramp the other day and he said his was a "72" hull did not get a chance to check his out but it looks like they were made until 72 at least
here is how your platform prob. looked



looks like the same boat to me



Good luck with your rebuild if you end up taking the deck out I would reallt like to see some pics of hoe the stringers are set if you need some pics of how it looked or any help ( what little I can give you ) just give a yell
Tony

[GarrettS]

Hey Tony! I already found your photos and saved them for reference. I am so happy that I found this site. It will be fun to share my progress. Your boat looks great. Yeah, I think it is the same. Mine must be newer because of the well and the chaseway for the controls. I will definitely post the photos of the stringers.

[Menner]

Yeah I really like this site lot of really good people and info I can sit here and just go to links people put up and take in the info because I have some fix up to do on mine when it gets hot and fishing slows so I am just going to school right now taking in what these guys have to offer
good luck with your project
tony

[RickK]

I didn't know that a model was ever made that had a step or "pad" in the hull at the rear.  Menner, does your's have this also?

[dbiscayne]

I've got a 1970 19-1 that has the same 'pad' in the hull, but mine doesn't have that storage box under the deck in the back like this one.

[RickK]

Where are these 191 coming from all of a sudden?  Has to be 3 or 4 all at the same time - you'll be giving the CCP gang a run for their money soon if this keeps up  

I thought the 191s had a smooth rounded bottom (almost flat) in the back - learn something new every day....

If I haven't already done so, welcome aboard dbiscayne  :!:  :!:

[GarrettS]

Can anyone tell me how to inspect my fuel tank to see if I should replace it? From the exterior it seems to be in acceptable condition. Minor rust discoloration where the tack welds were made.

Another question...should I consider an "in deck" fuel tank to increase capacity (range), lower center of gravity, as well as create additional storage under the console?

Thanks
Garrett