73 19-6 little by little

[flkeysaqua]

Well I bought this boat about two months ago a day before thank god I found this site so far I have fix the almost 36 yrs of use on the transom luckily it was solid but there were 20 or so holes over the years that needed to be glassed so that is where I started.




The mysterious bolts that went though the transom why? haven't got an ansewer yet oh well not there anymore


More of those bolts and you can see some of the holes that were either filled with 5200 or silicone and gelled over once or twice




Like that drain once the old brass flange was removed


After grinding and sanding and filling holes before glass


After glassing


After two skim coats of filler with one coat of gel





Finished product minus cleet have to take one in the day for you first time doing a good size project on a boat and this site helped me the whole way through couldn't of done it without you guys (well could of but would of been alot more trial and error) thank you to everyone
Next deck and rest of the hull and center console thinking about starting with the console.

[slim]

looking good there flkeysaqua. whats next ?. hows the boat run with that 140. when i had the time to work on mine. I fell an broke my damn hip. I can't wait to get started back.

[RickK]

No more bilge drain?

[flkeysaqua]

It has a new bilge drain I didn't install it untill I was done repainting you can see it if you look closely at the last pic. It runs good slim about 40 45 mph on a good day and I also visited the hospital cut myself with a 40 grit flap wheel doing the glass 15 stitches. Tonight I just installed my new hummingbird 595c gps/fishfinder thing is purdy but I do have some question about it. You have several options for the transducer thur hull transom mount and hull mounted. I want water temp/speed so hull mounted is out entertaining thru hull barely leaning towards the transom mount it comes with. My question is going through all the trouble of repairing the transom the thought of drilling a 5/8" hole thru it makes me sick and going over the top of the transom isn't to astedictly pleasing any suggestions? And thank you all its always nice to get a compliment or two on your work

[RickK]

It has a new bilge drain I didn't install it untill I was done repainting you can see it if you look closely at the last pic.

So there is - missed it the first glimpse.

I also visited the hospital cut myself with a 40 grit flap wheel doing the glass 15 stitches.

OUCH - I thought those flap sanders were supposed to be safer   Guess not.

Tonight I just installed my new hummingbird 595c gps/fishfinder thing is purdy but I do have some question about it. You have several options for the transducer thur hull transom mount and hull mounted. I want water temp/speed so hull mounted is out entertaining thru hull barely leaning towards the transom mount it comes with. My question is going through all the trouble of repairing the transom the thought of drilling a 5/8" hole thru it makes me sick and going over the top of the transom isn't to astedictly pleasing any suggestions?

If you don't want the big hole you don't have many options - I would run it over the top of the transom, routing it in the motor notch so no one steps on the wire and then back away from the lower unit and any strakes, like the install instructions tell you.  They give you enough clips to make it look decent.

[flkeysaqua]

Yeah I thought there were safer too but it actually grabbed my finger and pulled it into the grinder it only took a second. Yeah I might have enough to run it that and I figured there’s already a handful of cables on the back of the boat anyways if I do glass over that inspection panel I guess is what you'd call it where the cables run to the back of the boat and did what luv2flycessna did it were look alot better I think but after the deck what does he plan on doing with the cables? running a piece of that flex line to the motor?

[MarshMarlowe196]

I believe there are little plastic clamshells available for you to beautify a wire that runs through your transom.  That would require you to drill a hole (gasp) through the transom, but at least you wouldn't have the wire draped over the transom.  I personally don't care about the wire draping over the transom; like you said, there's already plenty of less than attractive wires and cables in your transom area.  If it really bothers you, you could always get some wire loom big enough to wrap all that stuff up, then use the clamshell I described to go through your transom for the transducer wire.  That would look... better  :)

I think the inspection plate you're referring to is actually called a control tunnel; at least that's what Aquasport called it.  I think Cessna's floor looks good without it too, but that plate being able to come up so easily sure is convenient.  If you look at his pics he posted, you can see what looks to be pvc pipe running from underneath the console to the transom under the floor for the purpose of running cables/wiring.

What pitch prop do you run on your 140?  I can do a solid 43mph with a 21" pitch on a Suzuki 140.... If I try to go any faster than that, my motor starts screaming at me for overrevving it and will drop down to idle (whether I like it or not).  Gotta love that new technology.  Maybe once I'm done with the hull, I can squeeze a 1/2 mile more per hour out of her  

Nice boat!

[RickK]

I believe there are little plastic clamshells available for you to beautify a wire that runs through your transom.  That would require you to drill a hole (gasp) through the transom, but at least you wouldn't have the wire draped over the transom.

The kit usually comes with the clamshell you refer to but the end of the cable that connects to the combo requires a big hole - 5/8" I think he said.  Thats' a big hole for a little wire.

[flkeysaqua]

I know rick I could justify a 1/8" or something but the wire comes with the plug attached why they dont leave it apart so you can just plug it in once you're done is beyond me I saw the conduit cessna used under the deck but from there is he going to let them go free on the deck or use a flex hose like on an action marine I've always liked the look of those and yes it came with a clam shell but there's still a 5/8 hole im my transom
 
Badon not sure the pitch number on prop 25378 but it can't be a 25 too much pitch right I know my dad is running a 32 on a jonny with 350+ hp so 25 has to be way too big is your boat slow coming on plane if its not go bigger

[MarshMarlowe196]

Yeah, I feel your pain with the plug size on those things.  Seems like they could have made it where that little wire can be disconnected and reconnected to the plug.  I wonder if you can cut the wire and reconnect it?  I would think you'd be able to since they provide the little clamshells with the unit.  I wouldn't try that without knowing for sure though!    

I originally had a 19" prop when I first got the motor, and it was pushing it to get it to go faster than 35mph.  After I promptly chewed the prop up, I went to a 21" prop and that seems to work out nicely.  I can cruise 4800RPM's @ 32mph and 42-43mph WOT (6200 RPM's, shuts down @ 6300RPM's ).  The boat is designed such that it will plane out easily... I think I could plane this boat out with 50HP.  The 21" feels right.

[flkeysaqua]

I WOULD NOT CUT THE WIRE YOU ASKING FOR ALOT OF INTERFENCE once there is a route for "noise" in or out the clarity will go out the window but if they made the plug a two piece you could drill a smaller hole then attach it. Really you plane off super easy haven't ran the boat with the gps yet and dont have a speedo but at 4,500 i know im running alot faster than 35mph

[MarshMarlowe196]

If you do find out what size prop you're running, I'd be interested to know how fast you run

[flkeysaqua]

Sure thing i'll be out tomorrow with the gps

[flkeysaqua]

Ok so I haven't taken the prop off os don't know what pitch it is but at 4,500rpm I was cruising at 33mph (on gps) at 5,500rpm 39mph didn't want to open it up for the simple fact I don't know how abused the motor was in its last 20yrs of use so thoughtI'd be on the safe side till I plan on repowering. Question for all I know the boat was rated for 185hp when it was built but do you think a 200 would be to heavy for the boat i.e. something that would keep me off the flats? And how much heavier is a 200 as opposed to a 175 yammy or jonny for arguments sake?

[MarshMarlowe196]

Your 140 = 370lbs

Similar year model Evinrude 200 = 455lbs

2 Stroke 175 Yamaha = approx 465lbs

4 strokes are, of course, heavier.  My Suzuki 140 weighs 420lbs.

That seems like a lot of extra weight to me, and these boats weren't the best when it comes to self bailing.  Plus, with your factory transom height, you run the risk of more backwash coming over the transom when you come off plane with a heavier outboard.

I think you'd probably get maybe 7-8 mph more out of a 200hp as opposed to your 140, but you'd be using soooo much more gas, (Used to have an old 200hp on my SeaCraft.  It would get up and go, but we must have gotten a 1/2 mile per gallon.)  unless you dropped some serious $$ on a later model injected 2stroke/4stroke.  I've heard some so-so reviews on the older model rude 140's, but yours seems to be running fine :)  I honestly think a 140hp outboard on this boat is a nice fit.... Most 20' boats are running with at least a 200hp, and the cool thing about these old Aquasports is that they don't require much hp to plane out and run.  I used to have a 90hp on mine before I repowered and it did just fine, and would run about 30mph.   :pl:


Your speed:rpms looks pretty close to mine.  I'm guessing you're running a 22-23" prop.  I have a tolerable hole-shot running with a 21" prop... I'm happy with my prop.