Refurbish 1981 200 CCP

[damnitbadger]

With small children you will really appreciate the high free board. She's coming along nicely. You got a splash date in mind?

[jdupree]

With small children you will really appreciate the high free board. She's coming along nicely. You got a splash date in mind?

That is the main reason I chose the CCP and I just love the layout.  Should have it ready to splash by the end of April.  I am just real anal and want things the way that I want them before it hits the water :)

[jdupree]

I was getting ready to mount the new tank in my CCP this weekend.  Need some advice.  My old tank was 20" wide on the bottom and 24" wide on the top.  I just decided to go with a rectangular tank that is 20" wide.  Based on that, I think the straps will be too large for the new tank when you try to join them.  I was thinking of using pressure treated 2x4's to mount the tank in place.  I don't plan to drill holes in the tub, but wedge them down in there to get a really tight fit.  I was thinking about placing one at the rear to hold in place and one or two on the top of the tank just in case.

My way of thinking is that the tank will always have at least 20 gallons of gas or more so I don't see how it would move anyway.

I think this will work, but that leaves the straps.  What should I do with them?  They have bolts in them but I think they have nuts on the otherside so I don't think I could remove them unless I cut them as low as I can   Any thoughts would be appreciated.  Thanks

[LilRichard]

Do NOT use any kind of wood where it will contact your tank- the wood will corrode the tank because it holds moisture.  Try to use something like plastic or neoprene (not regular rubber), either of which are non cathodic to aluminum.  If you're trying to wedge something in there, you might try something like starboard...

[JimCt]

Imagine God, or someone else nearly as big & important,  picking up the boat, turning upside-down & shaking it.  Nothing more than the deck cushions & your beer should fall out.  If you are confident the tank will hold, go for it.  Agree w/LilRichard's cautions about materials.

[jdupree]

Thanks for the input, how would you guys mount it wihout the straps

[LilRichard]

Can you post up a picture?  Assuming your tank has no mounting tabs:

I can imagine two ways of mounting your tank.  One would be bracing it with the starboard as I mentioned, then strapping it down with metal straps insulated with neoprene strips.  I might glass some sacrificial wood mounting pads to your stringers, the screw the straps into those wood pads.

Otherwise, you might wish to foam the tank in... it'll last a long time if done properly.

[jdupree]

Can you post up a picture?  Assuming your tank has no mounting tabs:

I can imagine two ways of mounting your tank.  One would be bracing it with the starboard as I mentioned, then strapping it down with metal straps insulated with neoprene strips.  I might glass some sacrificial wood mounting pads to your stringers, the screw the straps into those wood pads.

Otherwise, you might wish to foam the tank in... it'll last a long time if done properly.

Thanks, if you will look back in this thread there are several pictures of the tub the tank sits in without the tub.

I plan to seal the compartment very well so condensation should be the only form of water that gets in.  I have considered buying the foam at Lowe's or Home Depot that I think is called "The Right Stuff".  It is used for sealing pipes to keep mice out of your house.  It does expand when you spray it and should hold the tank in place.  What do you think

[GoneFission]

The foam you are talking about is called "Great Stuff" and is sold in several varieties, including high expansion, low expansion, and normal.  

I would go with the original type mounting, with the straps over the tank, and a treated 2x4 anchoring the end.  The "Great Stuff" foam may not be gas fume compatible, and also may retain water or stimulate fungus growth.  The original straps and tank mount setup lasted 25+ years, so it seems to work.  If it ain't broke, why try to fix it?  

You are right about the tub, when it's sealed up, the only moisture should be a very small amount from condensation.  Drill a small hole in the rear lowest part of the tub and you should be good to go.  

Sounds like you will be on the water in time for the April/May striper run - Good luck!  
 

[jdupree]

The foam you are talking about is called "Great Stuff" and is sold in several varieties, including high expansion, low expansion, and normal.  

I would go with the original type mounting, with the straps over the tank, and a treated 2x4 anchoring the end.  The "Great Stuff" foam may not be gas fume compatible, and also may retain water or stimulate fungus growth.  The original straps and tank mount setup lasted 25+ years, so it seems to work.  If it ain't broke, why try to fix it?  

You are right about the tub, when it's sealed up, the only moisture should be a very small amount from condensation.  Drill a small hole in the rear lowest part of the tub and you should be good to go.  

Sounds like you will be on the water in time for the April/May striper run - Good luck!  
 

I would love to use the original straps but since the tank is 4" inches less in width on the top, I think the straps will be too big and will not screw together back tight.  That is my situation, but I will try it out.

[rsh19904]

Try contacting the mfg. of the new tank and see what they recommend?   I'd say no wood just because it may rot and make the tank loose over time..starbord is a good product from what I've heard..then just seal 'er up good and you're ready to rock  8)

[LilRichard]

Sorry, didn't see the pics earlier.

If you do decide to go foam, order yourself up some polyurethane foam from a place like FGCI.  Go 4lb minimum, 8lb max.  

I am trying to decide the way I am going to mount my tank as we speak.  The advantage to straps is airflow around the tank.  The advantage to foam is that the tank is well supported, and there is not weight on a few pressure points.  Either way the tank should last 15-20+ years.  Go check out the tanks coming out of Makos (CM site)- they were all foamed, and most lasted at least that long.

Whatever you do, keep the wood AWAY from your tank!

[RickK]

Geez, I missed those pics too
Who's the little cutey in the front?

[GoneFission]

You can cut and/or bend the original straps to fit your tank - assuming is is smaller than the original.  Keep the original rubber straps between the tank and the hold-down straps if you can.  

Also, regarding wood in the tub, what was the condition of the 2x4 you took out?  I would bet it was OK.  A similar piece of treated 2x4 will last almost forever in the space that you are putting it in.  Cut one to fit, put a coat of paint on it (consider using some bottom paint if you have any around), and don't worry for 30 years.

[jdupree]

You can cut and/or bend the original straps to fit your tank - assuming is is smaller than the original.  Keep the original rubber straps between the tank and the hold-down straps if you can.  

Also, regarding wood in the tub, what was the condition of the 2x4 you took out?  I would bet it was OK.  A similar piece of treated 2x4 will last almost forever in the space that you are putting it in.  Cut one to fit, put a coat of paint on it (consider using some bottom paint if you have any around), and don't worry for 30 years.

I see what you are saying.  I can just cut them back, bend the ends up, and drill new holes.  I was planning to do that Sunday afternoon but got the dreaded stomach bug and was laid up all day :evil: That is not fun :!:

Hopefully, will have the tank sealed up by the middle of this week.