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December 31, 2024, 10:14:03 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #480 on: December 31, 2024, 10:14:03 PM »
A little more glassing to do on anchor locker. Deck is coming along.



December 31, 2024, 10:16:36 PM
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« Reply #481 on: December 31, 2024, 10:16:36 PM »
Happy new year everyone

January 04, 2025, 08:04:46 AM
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« Reply #482 on: January 04, 2025, 08:04:46 AM »
What does one use to glue the deck down. I think something thick and voluminous would be my friend to compensate for inconsistencies in my work which are many. What is bonding putty? Should I use 5200, gorilla glue construction ultimate or bonding putty?

January 04, 2025, 10:46:19 AM
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1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

January 04, 2025, 04:40:45 PM
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« Reply #484 on: January 04, 2025, 04:40:45 PM »
Working on cap
Not grinded

Grinded

Rod holder holes etc patched



January 09, 2025, 03:37:50 PM
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« Reply #485 on: January 09, 2025, 03:37:50 PM »
Too cold to glass the last couple of weeks so am working on other items. In this case the thru bulkhead for the fill and vent. Yes, the fill is pointed the wrong way so did what you see. Hope it works. I am going to try and plumb, wire, test run and check for leaks before I glass and glue the decks down.

January 09, 2025, 03:45:18 PM
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« Reply #486 on: January 09, 2025, 03:45:18 PM »
Had some geometry issues with the back portion of the deck where the stringers attach to the transom. I angled the stringers down slightly which was a mistake. The deck panels are so rigid there's no way I can hope they will conform to the shape so I am in the process of building then up with scrap Coosa. Will post some pics upon completion

January 09, 2025, 04:52:43 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #487 on: January 09, 2025, 04:52:43 PM »
I looked back through your thread to see the junction of the stringers/transom. My advice, based on the mistakes I made/didn't forsee, is to cut a 3" deep x 3-4" wide notch in the stringers right where they join the transom. Then glass in the cutout to seal up the stringers. Then plan a "gutter" to fill the notch. You'll have to modify the new deck. This gutter will be used to collect all water from the deck and funnel it out the scuppers. You'll be so glad you did, especially if you leave you boat on a mooring. Think about and it may also fix the problem you have with the gap you have to fill.

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1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

January 09, 2025, 06:03:11 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #488 on: January 09, 2025, 06:03:11 PM »
I gave a pretty lousy description. From the bulkhead to the transom the rear stringer angles down and has a slight crown/bend. I thought the panels would have more flex and would thus conform to the shape. No dice. My lack of experience with th the panel rigidity doomed me from the gambit. One of the issues I built in was trying to slope the deck towards the gutter. I had the angle perfect, but again, my efforts were for not. I have a fix that won't be terribly difficult. I did add additional glass to the corners where I think water will pool to add elevation. Should alleviate the problem. I like your idea though. May add that any way.

January 10, 2025, 05:11:45 AM
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« Reply #489 on: January 10, 2025, 05:11:45 AM »
The good thing right now is you haven't yet drilled your scuppers. Adding a trough will drop the scuppers lower so you can get rid of the water. if the scupper let in water it can't go anywhere except right back out.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

January 10, 2025, 11:30:12 AM
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« Reply #490 on: January 10, 2025, 11:30:12 AM »
In retrospect I did add a trough along the transom on your advice but only between the stringers. You are saying extend it all the way to the hull sides or there about?  Have to admit, that would be better than what I have but I am a little scared of it.

This best Pic of existing trough

January 10, 2025, 11:51:33 AM
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« Reply #491 on: January 10, 2025, 11:51:33 AM »
That may be wide enough - the goal being to give any water a place to go and drain out the scuppers. Looks pretty deep front to back, like you could twist an ankle if you step in it ;-)
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

January 10, 2025, 03:53:16 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #492 on: January 10, 2025, 03:53:16 PM »
Gotta have some way to separate the true mariners from the land lubbers. On my geometry issues, there is a 1/4 to 1/2 gap between the stringers and the deck right at the deck to transom joint. Would bonding putty, applied generously, to the top of stringers in that area adequately fill that gap?

January 11, 2025, 12:40:18 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #493 on: January 11, 2025, 12:40:18 PM »
I would think so. We've seen pretty thick bonding putty applied to the top of the stringers.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

January 13, 2025, 09:58:19 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #494 on: January 13, 2025, 09:58:19 PM »
I would agree with you on the bonding putty. I asked msteinkampf the same question cause he has a picture of a can of the stuff in one of his recent posts.  Perhaps he has first hand, recent working experience with it.

At any rate, glassed one side of a piece of honey comb that will serve as the forward storage floor under the casting deck.  Also grinded on the cap some more. Forward coring was predictably a mess. Rotten all the way to dust, plus previous structural damage. Should be pretty straight forward though.
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