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February 19, 2025, 07:24:25 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #555 on: February 19, 2025, 07:24:25 PM »
Most ideas are bad. That's why you talk about them. I appreciate the feedback. My brother said the same thing. He was less nice.

February 20, 2025, 04:55:02 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #556 on: February 20, 2025, 04:55:02 PM »
Saw where someone used gelcoat mixed with cabosil as a fairing compound. I finished sanding the stern and faired it with aforementioned mixture along with starboard rail damage.  Also included picture of bow damage. Still contemplating it. It's solid , just looks awful.

Fairing mixture


Stb rail. Actually looks decent. When sanded should be good.


Faired stern


Bow damage




February 20, 2025, 07:45:44 PM
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« Reply #557 on: February 20, 2025, 07:45:44 PM »
"Finished" sanding. I don't think I'm finished but all the dark, chalky, grey/blue paint is gone.



February 22, 2025, 09:05:27 AM
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« Reply #558 on: February 22, 2025, 09:05:27 AM »
Sanded the stern with 150 grit to remove the excess fairing / gel coat mixture. It worked, but talk about gumming up some sanding pads. My word. Probably will not use that again but it did work. I did use it to patch the rail damage and it worked well there. I will get a Pic and post later.


February 24, 2025, 06:37:47 PM
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« Reply #559 on: February 24, 2025, 06:37:47 PM »
Finally removed the thru hull for the front storage been drain. Don't know why I kept putting it off.  Patched from inside and outside






February 24, 2025, 06:40:00 PM
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« Reply #560 on: February 24, 2025, 06:40:00 PM »
Storage bin not been. I guess it is storage been, as in past tense.

February 25, 2025, 08:35:06 AM
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« Reply #561 on: February 25, 2025, 08:35:06 AM »
Struggling a little with order of operations. Can't see that it matters but I can't seem to pull the trigger. Should put the deck down then work on the console or finish the console and put it all down at the same time?

February 25, 2025, 09:12:57 AM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #562 on: February 25, 2025, 09:12:57 AM »
How are you planning to set the deck? With fasteners or glassed in? Its my opinion and I think the opinion of most that a glassed in console is stronger but it takes a lot of forethought and planning I would assume. Haven't got to that point on my builds but id like to try it for a seamless edge and to prevent toe busters.

February 25, 2025, 02:52:23 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #563 on: February 25, 2025, 02:52:23 PM »
Just be sure you've got a good idea of where everything is under the deck before final placement so that if you tweak the console location later on you know whats under there. Wouldn't want to screw into a fuel line or anything.

February 25, 2025, 06:39:49 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #564 on: February 25, 2025, 06:39:49 PM »
Screwing into a fuel line would be ... well, really bad. Not sure about glassing the console down but definitely thinking about it. Seems easier than screwing or bolting. Either way, I am modeling my center deck piece after Rick's, where the console and leaning post can/will be attached to it before it goes into the boat.

About finished with bottom of cap, patched a couple of holes in the skirt(?) And cored bow area.

Flexible piece of glass taped with packing tape very helpful


Core needs to cleaned up and finished glossing

February 25, 2025, 07:54:29 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #565 on: February 25, 2025, 07:54:29 PM »
Didn't answer one of your questions, U.  I'm gluing (5200) and glassing the lower deck down which is 6 pieces. Three across the stern and three across the center before the casting deck.

February 26, 2025, 04:19:54 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #566 on: February 26, 2025, 04:19:54 PM »
Just to make sure I follow, are you setting six (6) total pieces down to make one deck? Are you laying glass over it all once its set in place? Your using Honeycomb board for the deck, correct?

February 27, 2025, 08:23:49 AM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #567 on: February 27, 2025, 08:23:49 AM »
U, I'm glad you asked that. You are correct about almost all of your previous post. Using honey comb for all of it except the piece, which is Coosa, that is over the fuel tank/getting the console and leaning post mounted to it . My plan was to glue it all down, then glass around the edges . I was pondering what to do on the seams and I think one big layer of matte over the whole deck is the way to go. The individual deck pieces are all glassed individually with two layers of 1708 on bottom and one layer 1708 and one layer matte on top.

February 27, 2025, 08:31:49 AM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #568 on: February 27, 2025, 08:31:49 AM »
Are you using something to sort of glue each panels end to one another? I see where you are going and it seems this would be an easy way to piece it all together. But you will end up with weak points at the joints I would imagine. That being said, I would put down one layer of 1708 to tie it all together and a layer of matt that you can sand down a little and get fair for your final finish of choice.

February 27, 2025, 07:20:38 PM
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Re: 1973 196 rebuild question
« Reply #569 on: February 27, 2025, 07:20:38 PM »
All the joints have structural support underneath, either the stringers or the ribs which go all the way to the stringers. Should be really strong and am planning on lots of 5200 under the deck and in the joints.

Cut 6 inches out of the center of my console. You can see the piece on the ground.






Contemplated dual conSole, but no.


 


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