1973 196 rebuild question

[Duffy1470]

Back at it. Gonna need a livewell somewhere. Perhaps as a leaning post and if I do it that way, going to need access to bilge area.  Thus the pics.

[Duffy1470]

When I cut the notch out 9f the bulkhead for the livewell exhaust I noticed the angle of the bukhead wall was roughly the same as the transom. I am thinking gutter. Did any of you raise your deck and not put a gutter back in?

[RickK]

One thing to understand about your floor where it meets the transom is that no matter how/where you put scuppers in, the water will not go there and you'll have puddles that will drive you nuts. I have 3 scuppers and they are at floor level and the water still pools around the sides of the hole. That is why I mentioned a trough at the transom.  Then you can drill 2-4 scuppers in the transom and if the water doesn't all go out, who cares, it can't be seen so it will not drive you crazy. I know a guide that rebuilt his 196 and that is what he did, I should have copied him.

[Duffy1470]

Great info. Thank you. Do you think thickened resin then glass over the top and from the bottom would get it done? That's my plan any way.

[RickK]

Not sure what you're trying to do. Is that something to hold the gutter? When I say trough (what you call gutter) I'm thinking all the way across the back, so you don't need that piece.

[Duffy1470]

I made another stringer last night. I am going to cut it to fit between the the stringers to serve as the trough/gutter. The matching trough/transom angle is circled. Think I am going to 5200 the area where the transom and trough in addition to tabbing with 1708. The 2nd Pic is a screen shot of bolt pattern description for mounting the the engine.  I am assuming if I place the trough to utilize the original supper holes I will not have an engine mounting bolt issue?


Seems like the above may be helpful to others

[Duffy1470]

Spell check is maddening.  Scupper holes. That piece of Coosa holding up the small section of upside down stringer was left over from the transom cutout and had the right"ish" angles so I cut it to fit from the keel to the transom. I am still on the fence on whether to use it or not but used it told that example trough piece in place. Not really part of the plan right now. It could be useful to mount bilge pump bracket to.

[umecheme]

If the dimensions on the 19-6 is the same as on my 19-1, you're going to have problems the way you have it mocked up.  The well on mine is 4" deep to reach the bottom of the original scupper holes, and my engine mounting bolts are a couple of inches above that (so like 2 inches below the original deck).  If you raise the stringers, and leave the bottom of the well sitting across the top and even with the stringers, I don't think it will work.  I bought an engine mounting jig from a guy on Ebay for $50.  You can see where the bolts lie in reference to the original scupper holes, and as I mentioned, those scupper holes are like 3 inches below the tops of my stringers. I think Rick is suggesting putting a small trough across the entire transom to deck seam to collect the water and channel it into the well so it can drain out the back.

[RickK]

Kinda. I was thinking of having the scuppers in the trough but your idea is a good one, like a dual depth trough. If using this concept I would raise the trough a little on each end so the water can't sit anywhere but in the well and go out the scuppers.
I think you were concerned with self baling and I don't know if you'll accomplish having the scuppers so far down the transom.

[Duffy1470]

I am going to utilize the original scupper holes and put the trough deep enough to utilize them. That is sound advice, thanks.

[Duffy1470]

Got a leaning post I think I can use if I make a box. Also, started dry fitting the trough and mocking up the deck height with random Coosa pieces,

[Duffy1470]

[Duffy1470]

I was going to use the same pvc insert as the drainplug for the scuppers.

[RickK]

Leaning post looks good.

[Duffy1470]

Leaning post is a lot redneck but so am I so am going to go with it. I was not planning on cammo and black metal, but free is free. I am from the South, for Pete's sake, we wear cammo to dinner parties.