1989 222CCP w Yami F200 Prop/Speed issues?

[Kurt222CCP]

So i picked up a CCP that has ttop and was repowered  but otherwise factory. During initial testing the Cavitation plate was buried (mounted even with transom bottom). We put on a CMC jack placte and raised it about 5 inch and just got it out of the water. We are still only getting these numbers. I'm thinking the possibility the diameter is slightly small. I see these commonly using a 15.5x17 or 15x19. Seems like we should be getting 42-46 out of this setup depending on pitch with 10% slippage
14x19" Prop
27mph @ 4000
32.5mph @ 5400

[wingtime]

You raised it 5" to get it out of the water?  Sounds like you have a 30" shaft motor on a 25" transom.  The F200 is that the inline four cylinder?

I doubt you will be able to get much more than 40 MPH WOT with 200HP on that hull.  The bow on the CCP is a very deep entry and takes a good amount of power to push.  They are just not designed for speed.  If your top speed id 32 at WOT of 5400 rpms I would say you need to step down to a 17? pitch.  What is the recommended WOT rpms for that motor?

[Kurt222CCP]

Its the 25inch and was mounted properly per standard rigging even with the bottom of the transom. But i guess the hull design and added weight of the engine we had to  raise it that much to get the cav plate unsubmerged. Sounds like maybe even a 4 blade prop could help also based off your statement on the entry design. Looking for a 15x17 3-blade to try. Yes we got the WOT from 5100 to 5400 by raising the engine to the correct height.  I'll post some pics.

[heatherwood11]

If it helps any, I have a 1985 222 CCP and I put the same 25" F200 (4 Cyl) Yamaha on it last year.  I get a max of around 42 MPH out of it and am happy with that.  A great cruising speed is 30 MPH with this boat.  I believe my prop is a 17 (whatever it comes with).  I don't think you can get much more than 42 out of it. 

[wingtime]

Heatherwoods perfomance numbers are spot on with what I expected.  And I agree 30 MPH seems to be the sweet spot for cruise on the over 22'+ CCP/Osprey/Explorer hulls.

[Capt. Bob]

I agree also. Something is wrong somewhere Kurt.

My 210 WAC, which weighs more than your CCP makes 39.3 at 6000 rpm WOT, and it's an F150 I-4. I'm running a 14.25 x 15, 3 blade Reliance clone (Powertech) stainless prop. I truly believe if I raise the motor a tad higher it will break 40+ as I'm dragging the vent plate just under the surface. Cruises great at 31 mph @ 4800 rpm.  Max power range is 5500-6000. I'm thinking your 200 I-4 is the same.

I ran 41 mph WOT on my 84 CCP with an Evinrude 200 Ocean Pro and that was with a 4 blade prop, though I can't recall the diameter and pitch.

Good luck.

[Kurt222CCP]

Well I found a 15.5x17 Apollo 3 Blade in mint condition for $50!!! Putting it on tonight and will post our results!

[GoneFission]

A 17 or 19 pitch prop seems about right for a 200 on that boat.  I'm currently testing 4-5 props on my 22-2CCP now that I have installed the new 200 Optimax 3 liter.  I will post the results soon.  Testing 3 blade, 4 blade, and 5 blade props for acceleration, top speed, and economy.  Stay tuned!

[Kurt222CCP]

Oh man! can't wait. We just tested the new prop. Apollo HSE 15.5x17 and it helped with mid range slippage. got 29.1@4500rpm which is about 19% slippage vs over 30% before. top speed did not improve though. around 33.5 @5100 with trim all the way down.

[mshugg]

Oh man! can't wait. We just tested the new prop. Apollo HSE 15.5x17 and it helped with mid range slippage. got 29.1@4500rpm which is about 19% slippage vs over 30% before. top speed did not improve though. around 33.5 @5100 with trim all the way down.

Try trimming the motor up.  Once you’re on plane, you want to lift the bow a bit to reduce wetted surface and drag.  You’ll likely see a couple of extra MPH and reduced slip  at your cruise speed, and definitely see more speed and RPM at max.

[Kurt222CCP]

It seems to bring the RPM up a few hundred rpms but no real effect on the speed much. Going out again tomorrow and will test again with a Merc High Five 19P.

[GoneFission]

It seems to bring the RPM up a few hundred rpms but no real effect on the speed much. Going out again tomorrow and will test again with a Merc High Five 19P.

So far, the High 5 in 19 pitch has been the best prop tested!  Amazing hole shot and running 43 MPH at 5300 RPM on a 200 Opti with a 1.75 gear ratio.  Still have a 4-blade left to test - maybe next week.  Good luck!