Mike's 77 22-2 Rebuild

[Tampa Bay Mike]

Well, here it is. After years of wanting and waiting I am finally able to take on a rebuild. First off, thank you to all of you who have taken the time to post your rebuilds. The amount of information available here is simply amazing and I couldn't do this without you.

The hull is a 1977 22-2 and I am pretty sure that it started its life with a cabin but that was already cut out when I got her. The plan is pretty standard, remove the rest of the sole and the front deck, clean up and reinforce the hull bottom, hopefully just retab and refoam the stringers, and replace the transom. I will then make a decision on what to do with the cap. Not sure if I want to try and tie something into the front liner or just scrap that and build a whole new ring style cap from scratch.

Anyways, lots of time to plan that. Here are a couple of pictures of how she sits now.

[RickK]

The only thing in the 22-2 line, in that year, that had a cabin was the Family Fisherman (FF) line and that hull was different - it has a 19 degree deadrise, while this model has 12 degree.
I'm confused. Can we get pics of the inside front area? In the lower pic it does look like it has bunks and the foot well between them.
Ok, I found a FF that was called the "Modified Vee" version that was 12 degree. So that must be the model they tried to change.

[Tampa Bay Mike]

Yeah that looks like it. Here is an inside shot. You can see where the chairs were mounted and where the walkthrough was.



It is definitely the modified V which is mainly what I was looking for. It also looks like the sole is a little higher than normal. There is not much of a step up onto the front deck. Works for me because I planned to raise it up a little anyways to help it drain.

[RickK]

The sole looks to be original or at least looking at the fuel tank coffin edges, it was replaced very well.
You would step over the door ledge and then down into the cabin - that portion was removed with the top of the boat, along with the helm area.
With what you have right now, you could get creative and leave the cuddy (nice for the missus or if you're going to charter then a place for the clients to use the potty or use it for secure storage) or remove the liner and now you have a blank easel - draw what you want.  The stringers will proceed forward on either side of the footwell in the cabin.
The beauty of this boat is that you can make it anything you want.  Look at some of the rebuilds from dirtwheelsFL for some ideas on creativity.

[Tampa Bay Mike]

You would step over the door ledge and then down into the cabin

That makes sense now. I thought I was missing a hatch cover.

I actually just cut that step out yesterday while trying to figure out how to remove the rest of the sole. The front of the sole curved up and was screwed to the back of the cabin so it looked like one piece. As for the rest of the cabin, it was already cut out so no fixing that up. I may end up just removing the rest of it and starting with a blank slate. I think that will make it easier when I need to tie in whatever I end up doing for a cap on the sides.

As for the stringers, does anyone know how tall they are on the non-cabin models? These are 5 1/2 inches wide at the top and 14 inches tall under the sole and they step up to 18 under the front deck.

[Tampa Bay Mike]

I got most of the sole cut out tonight. Just cut around the stringers which look pretty good. Should be able to salvage them for sure. I'll get some more pics posted tomorrow, I ran out of daylight.

[RickK]

As for the stringers, does anyone know how tall they are on the non-cabin models? These are 5 1/2 inches wide at the top and 14 inches tall under the sole and they step up to 18 under the front deck.

Assuming you are measuring on the side toward the center of the boat - those measurements sound about right. I scratch built my stringers and I think that 14 is the height I had.

[Tampa Bay Mike]

I measured them up by the front. They are 9" tall and 7" wide back by the transom which is more what I was expecting. Guess I just figured they would be the same height all the way.

[RickK]

The bottom of the hull rises and that means the stringers must shrink.  Did you mention that the stringers in the front "step" up? Could have been for the bunks in the cabin.

[Tampa Bay Mike]

Yeah, if you zoom in on the last picture you can see where they step up 4" in that open area between the front of the sole and the back of what was the cabin. I think I'm just going to remove that liner, leave the stringers as they are, and just have a small step up on the new floor.

I've almost got it all cleaned out so I will try to get a better picture of it tonight.

[RickK]

Or you could raise the rear stringers to match that height.  If you do it right you can use that 4" to route wires, etc.
Here is an example idea - take a 3" plastic hollow fence post and wrap it in 1708 several layers and then after it hardens, you tab that onto the top of the stringers.  You've raised the sole now, so your boat will self bail better and you also have a chase to route stuff to the rear.
I didn't come up with the idea, another member did.

[Tampa Bay Mike]

That's a good idea too. I remember reading that trick in one of the old rebuild threads and it could work great in this case. I'll keep it in mind.

[RickK]

Maybe you can find a rectangular downspout?

[Tampa Bay Mike]

Floor out and 95% of the foam from the sides cleaned out.

[Tampa Bay Mike]

Now does anyone have any tips on how to get the remainder of the cabin out in one piece or should I just break out the saw again? It is only being held in by the bonding agent on the stringers but that stuff is on there good.