Thnx gents....funny i spoke to powertech yesterday and the guy i spoke to recommends a 14" x 21 pitch.....have got that from several dealers etc.....i have a 4 blade 15 1/4 x 16 pitch spare for my 24 pursuit that powertech says may be close....a bit bigger diam but with less pitch than the powertech recommendat u recieved...hopefully can try out tonight and will give me a better baseline than my 25 pitch 13.5 inch high 5 which seems to be an odd duck....it is for sale now if anyone looking for one .....thnx...kurt