Help with valuation on '87 222

[Stocksail]

Dang.

Well I emailed the owner back and let him know that 30% was troublesome and asked if he had a conversation with the tech about it? Might be the same guy that rebuilt it. I kinda feel like the bearer of bad news.  :cry:

[redemn93]

yee old interwebs is saying 15% or less is whats acceptable.  you also need to wonder if he did it right.  if tdc wasnt found properly and he just rotates 180 deg from there, then all cylinders will show high leak down.  there are a few factors to this.  if it wasnt a dealer, I would have a suzuki dealer do the tests or have someone here who is more knowledgeable check it out.

[redemn93]

i will say, seems like a well cared for, clean boat.  even the teak looks decent.  little elbow grease ont he gelcoat and she will shine up.  but really isnt worth more than $8500.  maybe $9k if you HAVE to have it.  figure motor is worth what, $3-4k, imo.  if the leakdown really is bad, walk away.  trailer with worth $12-1400 if and only if it doesnt need springs, hubs, tires, etc.  thats $5400 on the high side.  i wouldnt pay more than $2000 for the hull myself.  thats $7400 on the high side.  this is just my opinion though.

[Stocksail]

Thanks Jason, it does look like a very clean boat. The owner came back and said he talked to the tech and tech starts his gauge at the green line on the gauge, not 0. Even sent me a pic. so it appears he isn't calibrating it.... Not sure why. I'm still going down there, probably shouldn't, but If we do a sea trial and everything is perfect I'll probably make an offer.

It's either a complete scam, a square deal, or somewhere in between.

Either way, my offer will reflect the risk of the motor possibly being a spare anchor.

[Stocksail]

here is an option.  dont know what the real value is since details aren't in the description but a nice trailer, obviously redone transom.  dont know about floor, foam or stringers.  might be worth a call.  wish it had a bigger motor.  150 would be perfect for it.

http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/boa/4470901400.html

Called on this listing today. The guy was nice and upfront about a few issues. He said the guy before him did the work and put a new floor and transom in in but didn't do the stringers and they are delaminated. Also said the spray rail is coming off so that needs re-glassed. Also said the previous owner put in a plastic gas tank and it's gunked up so the boat is currently run on a portable tank. Also the pump for the engine bracket is broken. He said otherwise he has a good bit of money in the tower and electronics, motor runs good and is somewhat flexible on the price.

[redemn93]

forget that one then.  floor needs to come back off again to fix the stringers.

[Stocksail]

Ok I'm here looking at the boat from my original post. Should have got one of you guys numbers.

Boat is clean. But not as clean as I want. #1 issue, about a 12" length of delamination on the port stringer visible from the inspection plate in the rear. Starboard side is good. Could be more but can't see it. Bilge did look clean otherwise, no films or oil residue. Keel in the bow area is missing glass from the usual sandbarring. Some spider cracks in the floor though floor is solid. Hatches are solid. Stood on the skeg plate and jumped around, transom had almost zero flex. Motor is 25" shaft :( so it's not sitting on the plate it's meant to. Seastar helm and ram are new. New alum gas tank. Trailer is clean....

So with that new info, what's it worth? Or we're you guys in your infinite wisdom already figuring it would be this way hence the $7500 offer recommendation.

Thanks, Greg

[redemn93]

stringer delamination just tanked the value in my book.  walk away.  dont rush on buying a boat.  now is the worst time to buy anyway.  prices go up in summer, down in winter.

[Stocksail]

stringer delamination just tanked the value in my book.  walk away.  dont rush on buying a boat.  now is the worst time to buy anyway.  prices go up in summer, down in winter.

Thanks Jason. He wouldn't budge below $9k and my offer was well below that. Driving away as we speak. :(

[redemn93]

thats how it goes.  drove all over the state looking at different yukons denalis a few month ago.  i was being very specific with that i wanted.  with the age of the ones i was looking at 2004-2006 (i really prefer that body style), they were mostly trashed.  finally found one that was perfect after a few months.

[gran398]

Absolutely, you did the right thing and walked away. Boats are like trains....there's another one along every ten minutes.

If you're cool with a road trip, we'll find you one up here. Two Florida members have bought here and are happy as clams

[Stocksail]

I'm always down for a road trip. at this point I'm open to everything from a bare hull to a running original.

Thanks again for everyone's help and input. Gave me the info I needed to make the right decision here.

The search continues.


saw this today.... have seen other pics from another listing earlier... does have new trailer but its single axle... looks a bit small for the boat.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/boa/4464233259.html

same boat http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/boa/4453635379.html

or this one? http://sarasota.craigslist.org/boa/4441819313.html

[Joey]

Just looked at the map, that's down in the Gulfport area.  Aaron would be the best bet to check it out as that's pretty much a straight shot due west from the marina.  Problem is, what's between the marina and Gulfport is basically St. Pete's version of Liberty City...

Wow, really.  I grew up in St. Pete.  Actually got banned for life (court ordered) from Gulfport in 1981.  That area used to be so nice too.