real newbie question ....

[truckie]

I have a 222 osprey.  When its at a mooring do the two (scupper??) Plugs stay out or in ..  I know the lower plug stays in unless removing from water ,, but there's two with black plastic flaps just about water line or half way ,,, these are the two in question... I understand removing them while in motion will drain what's on the deck out, but just curious if they sta out all the time while at a mooring?
Thanks.  And sorry for the stupid question....
Just want to make sure

[wingtime]

Those two upper scupper drains are for the self bailing deck.  When the boat was new they sat just above the water line.  They are designed to drain off any water that gets onto the deck of your boat.  As these boats age they gain weight just like we do.  Usually there is some water absorbed into the foam in the stringers below deck, the wood cores etc.  Also today we install heavier motors, live wells etc etc that the boats were not designed for.  the result is as you described, the scuppers sit right at the water line.  This allows water to come into the aft deck especially when you get a couple of people or a big bubba standing back there.  The best thing you can do is take off those black flapper style scupper covers.  the idea of those is to stop water from flowing back into the boat.  They don't do the job very well.  Replace those black flappers with a set of TH marine ball type scuppers.  These have what looks like a ping pong ball in them that acts like a check valve.  They allow water to drain off your deck but they close when the scupper gets below the water line.  In my opinion these are a very important safety upgrade.  There are other ball type scuppers out there but the TH Marine ones seem to seal better, and they are two piece so you can take them apart to clean them.

http://www.thmarine.com/products/Aerati ... ll-Scupper

[Capt. Bob]

Looks like that, correct?



As WT stated, many members replace this type with the type he linked to. These work fine when new but the combination of UV and ozone stiffen and destroy the rubber giving them a much shorter life span.

Good luck.

[dburr]

I have a 222 osprey.  When its at a mooring do the two (scupper??) Plugs stay out or in ..  I know the lower plug stays in unless removing from water ,, but there's two with black plastic flaps just about water line or half way ,,, these are the two in question... I understand removing them while in motion will drain what's on the deck out, but just curious if they sta out all the time while at a mooring?
Thanks.  And sorry for the stupid question....
Just want to make sure

IIRC you have an 88 with a 150?  If so that is the rig I have.. On the haul off all summer, the flappers don't really work, but I don't care. She rests with the bottom outboard lip of the scuppers under water and would drain if I had the standard bronze scupper tube. I don't.. The tubes were rotten so I used a plastic inset that raises the inside lip about an 1/8" and has a smaller interior diameter for drainage. Not the best option by far but it does allow for the deck to drain at rest. Because of the lip height unless it is really dry for a while (no rain) there always seems to be a little water in the recess for the splash guard.  If we put two guys back by the aft cleat (400#), water comes in. Again, I don't care because as soon as we move out of the stern it drains out..

If you zoom in you can see them just at the waterline..

[truckie]

Thanks for the responses,,,  yea. They look just like that  but don't look like they sit flush all that well (out of water). I will look into the pingpong style .  Thanks

[truckie]

@ dburr. I have an 88 222 with a Johnson 200 on it

[dburr]

@ dburr. I have an 88 222 with a Johnson 200 on it

She will drain just fine at rest on the mooring as Long as she isn't full of water. You will know as soon as you put her overboard. Just stand by the console and look aft, if the water isn't coming in, life is good! 8)