Bought a boat! 1990 200 Striper

[gran398]

Tom, how far is the tow?  A ratchet strap from each fwd cleat to the winch stand will keep her in place.

Good point. You could even load her like that, with invention.

Get her home, then deal with it

[seabob4]

Scotty, I've pulled 22 footers loaded on triple axle Myco's meant for 37s.  Bow eye was like a mile from the winch!  Ratchet straps will keep that little girl safe and secure...  

[futch13]

Tried to quote the picture of the motor 4 times and gave up....

I don't see external trim rams on the motor.  Don't know how they the old trim motor/pump hooked to an internal system??  Didn't put 2 and 10 together until D mentioned it.  FAAARRRRRRRLLLLLEEEEEYYYYYYYY????????????

[dburr]

Loye first round I missed it too.. This is gonna be an odd duck.. I think a little shadetree engineering went into fixing a problem.. Nothing wrong with that if it works and can be fixed..  No clue how you'd plumb the hydro into what is essentially a closed system..  I had an 84 150 Marriner and it had a normal trim system so this is kind of odd..

Gonna be interesting to see what is between the mounts..

Are we all out to lunch Farley?  

[gran398]

Tried to quote the picture of the motor 4 times and gave up....

I don't see external trim rams on the motor.  Don't know how they the old trim motor/pump hooked to an internal system??  Didn't put 2 and 10 together until D mentioned it.  FAAARRRRRRRLLLLLEEEEEYYYYYYYY????????????

Early to bed, early to rise.

Farl will be on this at 5:30 AM like a hair on a biscuit

[Aquamaniac]

I will take some pics of motor and mount Monday when I go back to pull her home.

Anyone see any problem (like potential cracking...especially if slight oversize hole) in towing with eye, but no sealer in place, then sealing when home?
I could add straps from cleats as well. Should note he gave me really nice aircraft tiedowns for each side of the rear that hold it down and forward. They are heavy duty and fit so well they are almost 'custom'.  :)  Doubt it would go anywhere even with only having front cleats secured. The tow is 25 miles is only or so. Having a hard time not jumping in the truck today and dragging her home, but want to stop by the mechanic (shop right on the route) Monday and see what he has to say. I will run the points folks mentioned above by him and report back.

Now I am beginning to have some serious doubts on my 'deal'.......sure hope I can make it work!

[dburr]

Ratchet strap over the aft cockpit area right over the gunnels, (doesn't beat a transom strap but it will do).  Then put the bow eye on with a few fender washers at this point and pul her home, you can do a permanent fix when you have access to your shop and you stuff.  Working at a distance is no fun! Winch cable on and tight and another strap on the bow eye pulling straight down and she'll be secure enough to pull up to Scotty's house!  

We will cross the chicken bones for a good ride and no cops or stupid drivers!

[seabob4]

Tom, don't over analyse, strap her down tight and let it roll!!!  

[fitz73222]

Tried to quote the picture of the motor 4 times and gave up....

I don't see external trim rams on the motor.  Don't know how they the old trim motor/pump hooked to an internal system??  Didn't put 2 and 10 together until D mentioned it.  FAAARRRRRRRLLLLLEEEEEYYYYYYYY????????????

Early to bed, early to rise.

Farl will be on this at 5:30 AM like a hair on a biscuit

Remember fellows, I thought that this engine may be a hybrid, cause at least she has '78 cowls which gets us back to the big single ram trim piston with a boat mounted hydraulic pump and hydraulic lines running back into the boat to the pump. That system was through '82-'83 I believe. I need the PH number and the midsection number. Not sure why we're seeing wiring coming out from under the pan but my guess is the trim pump got power and up /down harness wiring from the main engine harness. I think everything is what it is supposed to be for a '78-'81 ish Merc. Where did '84 come from anyway?

[seabob4]

Where did '84 come from anyway?

George Orwell...1984 8)

[GoneFission]

Tried to quote the picture of the motor 4 times and gave up....

I don't see external trim rams on the motor.  Don't know how they the old trim motor/pump hooked to an internal system??  Didn't put 2 and 10 together until D mentioned it.  FAAARRRRRRRLLLLLEEEEEYYYYYYYY????????????

Although some were trim/tilt, some of the old T/T systems from Mercury were tilt-only,  no trim.     The only way to adjust trim was to move the trim pin/bolt that set the trim angle.  There should be 2 hydraulic lines going from the pump to the cylinders that are up under the clamp brackets.  This version only has two cylinders, later ones had three, and some later ones only had one cylinder.  There is a release valve knob at the bottom of the hydraulic pump that you can open to allow you to manually move the motor up or down - but remember it's heavy!   :!:   So to get her down the road, you should be able to open the valve, lift the motor up by hand (get some help), and then reset the tilt pin to the highest hole.  Lower the motor down on the tilt pin and it should be high enough off the road to not be a problem.  

Do you know the serial number for this motor?  I could get you a close guess on what year it is with the serial number, and it's easier when you combine it with the horsepower rating...  But it ain't a '90 with that T/T system...

[fitz73222]

Never seen that...

[GoneFission]

Never seen that...

The "tilt only"?  My guess is maybe Mercury could charge extra for T/T versus just tilt.  I've not seen one that was tilt only either - the only way I know about them is from some old Mercury manuals that talked about a "tilt-only" system.    

I'm with Farley on this being a late 70s or early 80s motor.  The first year for the V6 in 150HP was 1978, so '78 is possible - serial number will lock it down - for the powerhead - but it could be a hybrid...   :alien:

[RickK]

I had an old 80's straight 6 115 (with 150 decals - maybe it was "built" ??) on the 170 when I bought it and it had the external trim/tilt pump that sat in the port corner of my boat.  The tilt tube froze up and I got rid of the motor - that baby made the boat fly though - an instant "face lift" when you stepped from behind the windshield at WOT.  I would guess that I was doing close to 50 with that engine. Kinda miss it.  It was thin and powerful. Problem I had was that it took 2 batteries to start it initially - a cold nature'd beast for sure - the black wire would start smoking at the battery as we started her up cold. Once she was started and warmed up it took only one battery to start it.
I don't have any info on the trim and tilt other than I can't remember if it was an actually had a "trim" function or if I just "bumped" it to get what I needed. But I would think that it was a technology maturity - initially you were offered tilt and then they figured out how to slow down the "tilt" into a "trim" and that became an upgrade - later it was expected by consumers so now everything has it 'cept maybe the little motors.

[futch13]

Tried to quote the picture of the motor 4 times and gave up....

I don't see external trim rams on the motor.  Don't know how they the old trim motor/pump hooked to an internal system??  Didn't put 2 and 10 together until D mentioned it.  FAAARRRRRRRLLLLLEEEEEYYYYYYYY????????????

Early to bed, early to rise.

Farl will be on this at 5:30 AM like a hair on a biscuit

Remember fellows, I thought that this engine may be a hybrid, cause at least she has '78 cowls which gets us back to the big single ram trim piston with a boat mounted hydraulic pump and hydraulic lines running back into the boat to the pump. That system was through '82-'83 I believe. I need the PH number and the midsection number. Not sure why we're seeing wiring coming out from under the pan but my guess is the trim pump got power and up /down harness wiring from the main engine harness. I think everything is what it is supposed to be for a '78-'81 ish Merc. Where did '84 come from anyway?

Totally forgot about the single ram.   The go fasters used to love them.  I am trying to forget all those dual float carbs   Looks like I'm doing a good job of it      

Farley, have you ever set the floats using air pressure?  Amazing what a difference it made on those engines.