1977 AS - 22' CC - What can you tell me

[Yonerkel]

Looking at a 77 Center Console with a 2003 140hp suzuki 4 stroke engine with warranty left on her for another 2-3 yrs. Custom t-top hull awlgripped 2-3 yrs ago. Depth fish finder, vhf radio, 40 gallons tank and boat was not kept in the water.
Never owned an AS before - how will she handle inshore Jersey waters. Surveyed before I looked at it and appears to be in great shape

[steved]

Welcome to the site.  Look around and you will find lots of 222 owners, with lots of different configurations. The 222 is really a classic, great handling - a fishing machine.  Certainly not a dry boat thought.  A 140 seems really underpowered to me, though.  Most of us with 222s have significantly bigger motors. I have a 1982 (the ccp model which is somewhat heavier) and have a 200.  One issue when it was repowered may have been the weight.  The newer 4-strokes are much heavier than their two-stroke predecessors.

[John Jones]

Welcome.

My 222 has a 225 and I really would not want any smaller.  Mine does have extra weight and wind resistance with the t-top and upper control station.  I am not a speed freak but I believe in powering a boat near it's full HP rating.

[Radioshop]

140 on a 22.2 would be fine.  140 on 222 leaves something to be desired.  You can tell the difference by looking at the topsides.  If they apear to be elevated and flat, you have a 222, if they're flush with the hullsides and closely follow the shearline, then you have a 22.2.

[GoneFission]

The model numbers, 22-2 verus 222, were a matter of year model, not deep-v verus modified-v.  The 22-2 became the 222 in 1981.  The deep-v version is the CCP, for Center Console Professional.  I have a 1980 22-2 CCP, and the same boat (with a different instrument panel layout) became the 222 CCP in 1981.  The 1980 and earlier 22-2 became the 222 Osprey in 1981.  

The CCP model has the liner with the higher gunwales, an enclosed stern/transom, a 20 degree deadrise hull, and was developed for more offshore use.  It was also available (in the 22 and 25 foot models) with a factory tower with dual station controls.  The CCP was originally available in 20, 22, and 25 foot versions.

[sturgeon]

  If you have the 12 degree transom version a 140hp would be fine.  This big horsepower stuff is overkill for boats designed in the 70's when a 135hp V-4 was a big motor.  They do not take much to plane, seem to ride best around 22-25 mph and take a lot of horsepower to go more than 35 because of all the resistance of the flatter hull.  Sure you can put a V-6 rocket engine on, but it will cost you a lot more to buy and run.  The bottom line is that the flatter hull boats were not designed as "go fast" boats, but awesome all around boats that could go shallow and deep.

The other thing is that unless the water is fairly smooth you can't run flat out and be comfortable.  While they handle 2-4 foot rollers okay, they do it better at slower speeds rather than higher to take advantage of their low speed sea keeping ability.   My two cents for what is worth.

[DEFIANT]

I have a 1983 222 CCP with a 225 Suzuki 2 stroke.

I run out of Little Egg Inlet in NJ and have survived many trips up to thirty miles out! I must admit there have been times when I needed an asprin or two and some dry clothes after the afternoon southwest wind kicked in!

[Bushleaguer]

My 1987 222 Osprey has a 115 Evinrude 2 cycle and is enough for off shore fishing on Lake Erie.  It's good on gas and will run 22-25 knots when it's smooth.  I agree with sturgeon, anything after that speed on any kind of heavy sea is uncomfortable and beats the heck out of your gear and passengers.