Possible outboards for my Osprey VIDEO IS UPLOADED!!!!!

[icemanbryan]

OK, I thought I should open a thread on this, I am sure people are tired of my derails.
On THT there is a pair of 2002 Johnson 175 outboards, seem to have lowish hours 5 to 600.
I have only seen the photos and the ad on THT, he is asking 5500.00 for the whole enchilada.
They are complete with prop's harness's and gauges, I would assume binnacle. but it is late there and I will call tomorrow.
In AL
I do believe they are the "better motors" after the buyout.
I am rated for 300 max however at 50 hp over it shouldn't cause any real problems.
I would really like the Pro's and Con's of these.
Opinions are always encouraged and expected.
I want to know if this is a decent investment.
I have a 94 Yamaha 250 that is better than good,new gauges and binnacle.
Runs excellent and has had all of the service work done. It is at 478 hours.
I will most likely sell the 250 but, that is another story.
I would feel much safer going to the Island, (Catalina) with a pair of outboards.
What you guy's thinking?

[slvrlng]

I think they are a great deal. They are OBO so see what magic you can do. The guys name is Chipper and he runs a out building business there and seems like a nice guy. He has never run the motors, he traded for them from a guy that has a Prokat, and this guy never built his "dreamboat" so he never had anything to hook them to. I don't know if I'll be able to get them hooked up and running but I can get a really good look at them. He said palletizing them is no problem.

[icemanbryan]

My concern's would be 1) they have never ran with him.
2) they have been sitting for 4 plus years
3) sending a guy I don't know 5000.00 or so.
4) a major issue he might not know about
If the compression numbers are real, they are solid motors I would think.

All being said, they might be bought for a "deal"

[Blue Agave]

I think they are a great deal. They are OBO so see what magic you can do. The guys name is Chipper and he runs a out building business there and seems like a nice guy. He has never run the motors, he traded for them from a guy that has a Prokat, and this guy never built his "dreamboat" so he never had anything to hook them to. I don't know if I'll be able to get them hooked up and running but I can get a really good look at them. He said palletizing them is no problem.

Based on the info provided by Lew, the two previous owners never ran the motors. That's a RED FLAG in my book.  All that would be needed to run the motors is a water supply, battery, and Jerry can.

[gran398]

I'm with Nando. Let him take them to a good mechanic and get them running...Lew you're near this guy?

Bryan....you'll LOVE twin engines

See you next weekend

"Stay thirsty my friend"

[fitz73222]

My concern's would be 1) they have never ran with him.
2) they have been sitting for 4 plus years
3) sending a guy I don't know 5000.00 or so.
4) a major issue he might not know about
If the compression numbers are real, they are solid motors I would think.

All being said, they might be bought for a "deal"

Hi Bryan,
I often don't offer opinions about these things because everybody has one, but in this case I'll make an exception.

Do not take anyone's word on the condition of these engines, most folks do not know what they are looking at and will often use default words like clean and low hours without any knowledge of the history.
For $5K its worth a cheap seat on a plane do go look at them and talk to someone face to face about their history and get them checked out and hear them run yourself. If you like them, rent a Ryder truck and bring them back to CA.
Not sure if the actual engine hours can be extracted from the ECU's on '02 BRP's but someone will know.
Sounds like a good deal if they are represented honestly.

[icemanbryan]

Lewis has offered me an incredible favor.
He has offered to run by the guys house and check them out
on the way to Scotty's big to do next weekend!!
This guy has not used them.
However, according to him,  they were running when he received them and I do believe he is telling the truth.
I just don't know if they were actually running, he might have been played on them??
He did trade them off the owner who upgraded to 225 4 strokes.
This came off the cat and he was going to build his cat and never did.
He sounds like a real nice guy and a very straight shooter, but yes he has not ran them in 4 years    
He did have a guy come over and do a compression check on the pair.
I really think if we could get them fired up I would feel way better about spending the bucks.
I spoke to him a bit this morning, he owns a business there for 11 years.
I guess he is established there??

If Lew could get them running at least we would know where they stand as far as quality.

With the shipping and carbs etc, I was going to offer 4000.00 if they are running motors, if there is a problem
Not sure if I am in

[icemanbryan]

I think they are a great deal. They are OBO so see what magic you can do. The guys name is Chipper and he runs a out building business there and seems like a nice guy. He has never run the motors, he traded for them from a guy that has a Prokat, and this guy never built his "dreamboat" so he never had anything to hook them to. I don't know if I'll be able to get them hooked up and running but I can get a really good look at them. He said palletizing them is no problem.

Based on the info provided by Lew, the two previous owners never ran the motors. That's a RED FLAG in my book.  All that would be needed to run the motors is a water supply, battery, and Jerry can.

No, he traded them when they were running, he was going to build a cat and never did.
They were running from the guy he got them from

[gran398]

Bryan, I bought a 1974 Aquasport 22-2 four years ago out of Marco Island sight unseen, based upon my trust in the 79 year old owner.

I was guaranteed the right of inspection and refusal if not completely satisfied.

He denied to the Marco Island PD ever making that statement.

Lesson learned...even a man our dad's age can be a lying, cheating sack . Get EVERYTHING in writing, and insist that it be notorized. The old bastard hit me for some serious money.

In this instance, as they have been sitting up for years...tell the guy to get them up and running, you have a knowledgeable friend coming to inspect. He certainly doesn't expect anyone to buy engines which can't be cranked and heard.

[icemanbryan]

Scott, very good point.
I really don't want to give in the neighborhood of 5 k away.
I was really busy today but spoke to him,.
I told him I would call tomorrow and discuss what I would expect him to do.
I would really like to have them running before I would be interested in buying them.
If it does not work out it does not work out.

I am fine where I am.

[gran398]

I've always been a trusting sort.  I've been ripped off more in the last eight years than in all the previous business years combined. Great Recession I guess...when times get tough...the golden rule gets abused.

Lew's offer to go hear them...that's what our club is all about.

[seabob4]

If "Chipper" has them on motor stands, then running them is a piece of cake.  If they are laying on their sides on pallets, then he has a bit of work to do...

Bryan, haven't been on THT in a few days.  Have you or anyone else insisted that they be run before considering purchase?  Maybe I should go look...

[seabob4]

Bryan,
Posted in that thread about running them. See what he'll do...

[icemanbryan]

I've always been a trusting sort.  I've been ripped off more in the last eight years than in all the previous business years combined. Great Recession I guess...when times get tough...the golden rule gets abused.

Lew's offer to go hear them...that's what our club is all about.

Me too.
I usually do it wit ha hand shake, never been burned (yet).
My opinion on the guy, he is telling what he believes, not a scammer.
I just don't know if he got scammed getting them

[icemanbryan]

Bryan,
Posted in that thread about running them. See what he'll do...

Thanks Bob I appreciate it.
How is M feeling after the treatment?