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February 27, 2013, 08:01:49 PM
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slvrlng

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Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« on: February 27, 2013, 08:01:49 PM »
Since I mix my gas because the VRO is disconnected I am thinking about one of these as a kicker.
What do you think? Yes I know its Chinese, but it looks like a viable option.

http://golehr.com/new/lehr-9-9-flyer/
Lewis
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February 27, 2013, 08:34:15 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 08:34:15 PM »
I do like the idea but Lew since you premix already find yourself a good ole made in USA Jonnyrude to match the big one
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February 27, 2013, 08:50:10 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2013, 08:50:10 PM »
I guess I'm confused - what does premixing your fuel have to do with a propane fueled kicker.  Are you going to hook up your BBQ tank to your kicker?
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February 27, 2013, 09:05:50 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 09:05:50 PM »
I don't want a 2 stroke kicker. Personal preference. So, the only choice is a 4 stroke or this. This is a cool idea and I can use the tank for the grill if we camp.
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February 27, 2013, 09:07:34 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2013, 09:07:34 PM »
If i get a 4 stroke I would have to have a tank full of gas on the deck, which I don't want.
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February 27, 2013, 09:35:20 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2013, 09:35:20 PM »
Lewis, a kicker with a separate fuel supply is a much better fail safe than one sharing the main fuel tank. So a fourstroke with its own tank is a good idea.
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February 27, 2013, 10:30:31 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2013, 10:30:31 PM »
You can run a 4 stroke on 50:1 premix without a problem.  The only real issue could be for extended run times at idle, but I doubt if you would do that very much, and you could always kick the plugs up a heat range for that.   :thumleft:
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February 28, 2013, 11:33:43 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2013, 11:33:43 PM »
They should of built a small grill on top of the engine. If you break down and it takes hours to get back in, at least you can eat.

March 02, 2013, 09:36:02 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2013, 09:36:02 PM »
Kickers are for walleye fisherman
Gonna do some back trolling?
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March 03, 2013, 10:41:37 AM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2013, 10:41:37 AM »
Slow trolling for kings and mahi. My 175 does not like running below 1100 rpms for extended periods and that equals around 5 to 6 mph as Skoot will attest.

EDIT: The idea of a kicker is mainly for a backup to get home.

Here is another video of the 9.9 I found running from LA to Catalina. 26 miles in what looks to be a 15 foot aluminum skiff with a chase boat. 2 gallons of fuel used in a hour and a half.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNr3U1E89WE
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March 03, 2013, 11:06:23 AM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2013, 11:06:23 AM »
E mail them see if they have a kit to convert a johnson to propane from there last post they have kits to convert other motors.That would be cool

March 03, 2013, 04:18:36 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2013, 04:18:36 PM »
Again, you don't need to convert to smelly propane.  A 4 stroke motor will run just fine on a TC-W3 oil with a 50:1 premix.  I will not coke the cylinders or foul the plugs in a modern 4-stroke engine that is properly tuned.
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March 03, 2013, 04:41:19 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2013, 04:41:19 PM »
Quote from: "pigbike"
They should of built a small grill on top of the engine. If you break down and it takes hours to get back in, at least you can eat.
I think that should be an option on that motor.  mmmmm, can smell the ribs already  :pig:
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March 03, 2013, 04:50:46 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2013, 04:50:46 PM »
Quote from: "slvrlng"
The idea of a kicker is mainly for a backup to get home.

Lew the idea of a kicker is a great idea which ever one you choose, I have had my 15 on my boat for 10 years now, unless I'm with other boats I don't go offshore without it, and I do have towing.
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March 03, 2013, 06:08:34 PM
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Re: Lehr 9.9 propane outboard as a kicker?
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2013, 06:08:34 PM »
Lew,

I think its a pretty cool little engine. The technology has been around for many years in other applications. I've taken a propane powered engine apart; an old 250 six cylinder Chevy that was in a local propane service truck. The engine must have had 300,000 miles on it and you could eat off of the inside of the cylinder head; it was that clean, the valves were perfect. It just leaked so much oil like they all did, it had to come apart to be re-sealed. I guess the only thing that I would research is that is it really a salt water engine from a materials standpoint or is it ESKA/Ted Williams quality with a propane powerhead. Do you buy these factory direct or is there a dealer network? What's the warranty? How do you get parts? Are they US built?; that would be a nice change. Can you get a 20" shaft that would get you deep enough in the water on your transom? If it met my criteria; I'd buy one for shits and giggles.
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