RickK's 170 rebuild

[CLM65]

I think they're attracted to anyplace you don't want them :x

[Aswaff400]

I'm wondering if they are attracted to the smell of Styrene?

the smell of frustration... the more you get frustrated at them the more they show up... they swarm us on the forklifts which gets old/annoying very very fast... i noticed they dont like to be inside the high and dry building though...

[RickK]

I remember reading long ago that they are attracted to something that is in the exhaust of vehicles and that is why they hang around freeways and heavily traveled roads.
Aaron - maybe they're attracted to the exhaust of the forklift? (unless it's electric)

[Capt. Bob]

I remember reading long ago that they are attracted to something that is in the exhaust of vehicles and that is why they hang around freeways and heavily traveled roads.

Formaldehyde.

Light colored surfaces reflect the sun's ultraviolet rays in color that looks like fruit they consume.
Fresh paint (apparently gel coat too) must give off the same/similar odor as formaldehyde or is actually releasing it as it cures.

[gran398]

I remember reading long ago that they are attracted to something that is in the exhaust of vehicles and that is why they hang around freeways and heavily traveled roads.

Formaldehyde.

Light colored surfaces reflect the sun's ultraviolet rays in color that looks like fruit they consume.
Fresh paint (apparently gel coat too) must give off the same/similar odor as formaldehyde or is actually releasing it as it cures.

Good thinking there CB.

I've had Lady Bugs land on me several times over the course of many years. Maybe Grecian Formula smells like paint?

[Aquasport Commodore]

No Scott, I think it would be the Metamucil that they're smelling   along with the Formaldehyde you drink  

[Aquasport Commodore]

So how many gals of Resin/Epoxy have you used on this project so far? How much fiberglass weight and materials have you used? Just was wondering as to total weight added to the original hull weight. How much weight do you think you added with all the materials?

[RickK]

Materials: I have used a 5gal bucket of poly and probably 10-14 gals of epoxy.  I've been through about a 100 lbs of 1708,  about 10 yds of 1808, about 10 yards 1.5 oz csm and approx 10 yards of 3/4 oz csm.
As far as added weight I would guess none.  Sole is composite, was wood. I added a seating/storage area to the front of the console where I used to have a cooler all the time - net is probably a little gain depending on how many beers, err refereshments I had in the cooler   . The old tank was 25ish gals, aluminum - now it's 27 gals poly.  Casting deck is pretty much the same even though I cut another hatch out of the front of it and replaced with a poly hatch backed by composite. Net - maybe a pound or so loss or about equal?
When I add the 2 trolling motor batteries i would say that will add another 100lbs but that is about all.  The trolling motor is probably 30 lbs? I had a smaller one on the back - so a little gain there. Maybe the added stereo stuff - not much gain.  Old original helm seat will be replaced with a custom seat by Randy - probably not much gain there, the old seat bottom had a little weight to it.  A smaller cooler will slide under it.  

It's just been reconfigured and brought up to 21st century standards and materials with a little better workmanship than original.

[RickK]

I've made a little progress since the invasion of the Lovebugs - just not on the console.
I finished both cabinets for the back corners of the boat to close in the rigging tubes yet give me access to the tubes.  I will cut doors like you see drawn on the cabinet.  Making the doors now out of 6 plys of 1708. I also made a mold of the transom top and made a cap for the transom. you can see it setting on the transom top in the following pics.






As part of the transom cap I am also going to place a few layers of cloth and CSM on the inside face of the transom - the transom was lam'd with epoxy and I need to be able to gelcoat it so I need to cover it with a "liner" of sorts, made from poly.

[bfabian76]

oooooooo.. i like! great idea to run the rigging in there

[RickK]

Thanks but we'll see how it works out.  Should be fine. (Where is the fingers crossed emoticon)

You need to learn how to do "the stare".  "The stare" involves grabbing a few beers (or your choice of beverage although beer allows you to still think) and stand at your preferred position where you can stare at the boat and think things through.  A couple hours is the norm - you have to think this stuff through - not any work gets done except in your mind, working all the details out.  Sometimes it is a good session, sometimes it is confusing and requires another session.
I know I have had a few sessions like this - the wife doesn't get it but the results speak for themselves.  Sometimes you rethink the rethink that you did prior - my redesign of the console is an example.

For your rebuild you need to think through how you want to route the rigging.  I sent an email to the TH marine guys about the routing of rigging vertically through their combo (the one suggested in your thread) and whether it would allow water into the bilge if inundated with water like we get a "gully washer" here in FL (3-5" of rain per hour) - they started to answer but have stopped responding.  IMO the sole of the 170 should be sealed so no water can get anywhere except out the scuppers.  The new engines weigh more that these boats were designed for - sure the HP ratings allow it but the scuppers sink below the waterline.

The corners seem to be the best solution IMHO as you can see some pros doing the same thing (although they usually have the full transom and cover that with a 10 or 12" cabinet).
Go back a few pages and see the PVC contraptions I came up with to get the possibility of the rigging through to the corners.  Remember that shifting cables are your biggest problem - they require a slight transition or they aren't getting through.

[bfabian76]

i had 7 months of that, but until recently i didnt know what i was looking at hahaha.

[larsli68]

You are doing a fantastic rebuild Rick! I'm very impressed!

[RickK]

i had 7 months of that, but until recently i didnt know what i was looking at hahaha.

I would agree that 7 months is a tad too much time  

[RickK]

You are doing a fantastic rebuild Rick! I'm very impressed!

Thanks Lars - I too did the transom - but not poured.