RickK's 170 rebuild

[RickK]

Thanks Steve - they did come out kinda tight after a few tries.  Fiberglass is so forgiving   .
The last thing I did today was grind the sides where you can see the gelcoat at the joints.  Then it was into the shower.

[RickK]

So I redesigned my console and closed the front in as far as toe kick and also designed a storage area for "stuff" in the console, like my tool bag, fire extinguisher, etc.
I built a box and lined it with a drop cloth last weekend


Lam'd 2 layers of 1708 in it




Stripped the wood off this weekend


Needs a good scruffing but not too bad looking.  Made it it deeper than I needed so I could trim to fit


To give you a little perspective of the size


I trimmed it down to final size and trimmed the upper portion 1/2" less deep than the bottom so there is a built in draining.  I dry fit it into the the new "hole"


Still haven't scruffed it down yet but fits nicely




The console is upside down and you can see the addition of the toekick in the front center and how the storage box fits


I needed backers for the box for the bottom and the top so I lam'd some 1708 over some Plascore and also while I was at it I lam'd 6 layers of 1708 for the door to the storage.  I set a bunch of blocks to keep it flat and let it set for a while.


After an hour or so I pulled the plascore out, trimmed it and then mixed some thickened resin, trowelled it on and glued it to the bottom and top






One down and one to go


This is the backer for the top - will throughbolt a fire extinguisher to the inside top of the storage


I lam'd some 1.5oz CSM to cover the backers and then set it in place again and tabbed it in place with increasing size 3/4oz CSM




After it kicked (man it was hot out this weekend) I tied in the front portion


A little progress anyway.

[CLM65]

Looking good Rick   And man, you aint kidding about the heat.  Really hampering my progress lately.

[gran398]

Good stuff. You're gonna enjoy the toe kick....nice touch

[kaptainkoz]

great to see you slinging glass again. Looking good. I like the plascore backers. Im going to get into that stuff for the pilot house so im studying up on how your using it.

[RickK]

Thanks all, the weatherman said the "feel like" was over 100 degrees this weekend.  I believe it.
I forgot to post the pics of the door


You can see it has some thickness to it - haven't decided if I need to back it or not - any ideas?  Do you think this will warp? I have some 1/2" Jasper board that is big enough to back it.

[RickK]

great to see you slinging glass again. Looking good. I like the plascore backers. Im going to get into that stuff for the pilot house so im studying up on how your using it.

This is a good thread to check out
http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=58215

If you've got some time, this boat is 100% composite - infused.
http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=28463

[dirtwheelsfl]

If you've got some time, this boat is 100% composite - infused.
http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=28463

Thing is pretty nuts huh ?!

[RickK]

Yup.  He's got some money and learning/knowledge wrapped up in that boat.
Chris, you think I should "back" the door on the console with 1/2" jasper board?  You probably saw the response from Shine - not sure if two strips (top and bottom ) is enough.

[dirtwheelsfl]

Just looked over there. I wasn't quite sure either til you explained it haha.

I don't think 6 layers would warp, especially since its not very big. If you wanna play it safe then it wont be much work to add a couple ribs or whatever. Just make sure to leave room for latch n hinges.

[kaptainkoz]

Wow that infused build is another level of building. Cool stuff but boy what a mistake curve. Imagine doing such large pieces and not having the resin fully reach all areas? I would be in a panic to even try it.
That top they built was awesome and I will use some of their techniques in designing a top for my boat. Thanks for sharing!

[RickK]

This weekend was all about the console again.  Saturday I spent cutting the frame off the slab and gluing it on the console.  Amazing how long little things like this take.
I cut out the door and bottom part of the frame from the slab and screwed it to the console.  The holes are countersunk so when I remove the screws the holes will fill nicely.


A little closer look


This is with the bottom frame attached


The frame is made so there is a 1/4" lip of console exposed. This lip will have a "D" type weatherstrip glued to it. I built up the level of where the frame mounts with a couple layers of 1.5oz CSM to help allow for the weatherstrip.  We'll see how it goes, I may need to route an edge off the door to accommodate the strip. You can seethe screw holes filled in too.


I cut an extra 1/4" off the door for the piano hinge - bandsaw works great for this. I lam'd a couple layers of the remaining slab together to have a ledge to screw the piano hinge onto the door.  Then I epoxied it to the door.


A dry fit






Next weekend is some more console cleanup work and possibly spray some gelcoat on it.

[RickK]

This weekend we had a lot of rain on Saturday, so I only did a little prep on the console.
Sunday it was still threatening but never rained so I finished up the console prep.
Getting ready to shoot it next Saturday - strap


Winch


Ready to spray




Then I took it back down and stowed it away.  It was already 330 so it was too late to get all stressed out shooting gelcoat for the first time.

[kaptainkoz]

That's some piñata! I hope your not having a block party anytime soon! lol. I look forward to seeing that shot. Its an awesome design. Classic Aquasport has been slow with progress as a web site which has left me starving. I am to blame myself as well for the lack of posts but im definitely looking forward to seeing your boat moving along.
Don't stress shooting the gel. Once you commit and pour in the hardener the clock starts ticking and its over before you know it. The 2 quarts or so that you will need to shoot the first coat of the console will be out of the gun before you resume normal breathing patterns.

Word of advice from a fellow novice gel coat sprayer... its okay if you don't cover everything 100% on the first shot. It is way easier to shoot a few more coats than it is to fix runs. go nice light even coats.  You can shoot another coat in a hour or so but you cant sand a run for a day or so until it completely sets up. Paint pros correct me if im wrong but that's been my limited experience.

[RickK]

I agree on the rebuild progress of the other rebuilds on the site - seems everyone is at a stand-still or waiting for cooler weather  
I think Aaron said he turned it over to a fiberglass guy at work.

As for shooting gel - I'm ready - gotta practice on something before I do the hull or inside.  I found out the tip that came with the gun is 4.8mm    No wonder it drips out when you point it down.
I bought one qt of unwaxed and one of waxed. Plus one qt of additive to stretch the qt of unwaxed I figured one qt would do the console for the first coat but I'm glad to get another set of eyes on it for a guesstimate.
I wanted to spray a coat on it and then see/fix any bad imperfections and then shoot a coat with additive for the second coat.  What do you think Koz?