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May 10, 2014, 06:13:41 PM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #735 on: May 10, 2014, 06:13:41 PM »
I'm back at it - man it seems summer is here.
I found a perfect size PVC  pipe to make the drain channel from


Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

May 10, 2014, 06:17:53 PM
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« Reply #736 on: May 10, 2014, 06:17:53 PM »
I started laying 3/4 oz mat on the new edge and laid a few layers of mat on it - tough to get it to stay over the slight rounded edge I filed  on the jasper board.


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1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

May 10, 2014, 06:23:25 PM
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« Reply #737 on: May 10, 2014, 06:23:25 PM »
Time to start making the hatch so I blocked out a form on a piece of plywood and screwed down the outside edge that I needed


I mixed some bondo and filleted the edges of the hatch


Cut the glass - 3 layers - 1.5oz/1708/1.5oz
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

May 10, 2014, 06:27:20 PM
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« Reply #738 on: May 10, 2014, 06:27:20 PM »
I laid cheap plastic drop cloth inside the form and then I mixed the poly and let it rip on the 3 layers


After it kicked I waited a while and then I popped it out of the form and it doesn't look too bad.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

May 11, 2014, 05:26:58 AM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #739 on: May 11, 2014, 05:26:58 AM »
Rick, I finally made it over to look at your rebuild pics to see what you were speaking of regarding the plastic drop cloth. I admit, when you explained, It became clear, but the pictures are awesome. I'm very impressed with your work!! Thank you for the messages regarding my Aquasport rebuild!!

And I have realized, it doesn't matter how long I stand at my Transom and stare inside to over-think, I can not will anything to actually happen. I suppose I watched too much Bewitched as a kid. So come next week, I have to go back to grinding and sanding. Or find a Jeannie bottle.  :D
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May 11, 2014, 09:04:16 AM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #740 on: May 11, 2014, 09:04:16 AM »
Looking really great, Rick :thumleft: .  One thing I have done with good success, when it comes to getting the glass to follow tight corners, is to cover the wet glass with plastic, then lay cheap cushion material from Walmart on the plastic, and then compress it with either duct tape or with an "L" shaped plywood form (weighted down and braced in the lateral direction).  Makes the fiberglass follow the shape of the underlying material.
Craig

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1967 22-2 Flatback (Rebuild in progress)

May 11, 2014, 09:52:02 AM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #741 on: May 11, 2014, 09:52:02 AM »
Thanks Craig.
Today I need to work on the backing of the hatch.  Going to take some thinking because I'm going to have to design a lip on the lid support to lock into the hatch which hopefully will keep water out and channel water to the drain. I'm going to use 1/2" Jasper board for the backing lam'd with some cloth to beef it up.  I'll be done in epoxy to give it the strength it needs. Going to use epoxy for the lid support too.  We'll see how it goes today.  If it's a viable solution I will retro the rear hatch with the same lip system.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

May 11, 2014, 04:29:30 PM
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« Reply #742 on: May 11, 2014, 04:29:30 PM »
A little more progress - did a little grinding/shaping on the hatch opening


Dry fit - a little snug but still pretty good.


Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

May 11, 2014, 04:34:16 PM
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« Reply #743 on: May 11, 2014, 04:34:16 PM »
Had to notch the hatch a little to fit over the drain


Here is a guide drawn on plastic for the layup of the hatch support.


Here is the layup with epoxy - 4 layers of 1708
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

May 11, 2014, 04:37:21 PM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #744 on: May 11, 2014, 04:37:21 PM »
and I put a layer of 1708 on each side of the jasper board also.


Finished the day up with adding another layer of mat on the hatch opening edge.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

May 25, 2014, 07:03:06 PM
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« Reply #745 on: May 25, 2014, 07:03:06 PM »
Ok, so where'd I leave off.
I lam'd 1 more layer of 1708 on the inside of the hatch, buttered up the backing I made , laid that into the hatch and covered with another layer of 1708. Covered it with a drop cloth and laid some blocks on it for next week.  This is how it came out of the plastic


Cleaned up the outside a bit


Set it in the opening for a double check on drain pipe clearance.


Next I started on the hatch support.  I trimmed it down, notched where it needed to be


and traced the outside edge so I knew how much to butter up.


I mixed up some thickened epoxy and troweled it on the inside area.  I then set the support into the paste and pressed it in.  Nice ooze out.




I scraped up the excess, covered it with plastic and put a bunch of blocks on it for the night




This morning removed everything, cleaned it and it came out pretty nice




I flipped the deck over and cleaned up the ooze out on the top.


The drain trough came out nice too.


Took a little time to clean up the ooze out but it's nice and clean now


Dropped the hatch in for the final fit


It came out a little proud of the deck - hmmm - looks good though




I took a router and routed out 1/8" around the edge so it could drop down a bit into the hatch area - then the hatch fit flush  :cheers:  (cut out all the air bubbles caused by the edge in the process :wink: )


Started filling in the gap around the perimeter on the casting deck so it will touch the liner.  I start with poly because I will be gelcoating the inside of the boat.  I will come back next weekend and lam a layer of 1708 with epoxy to stiffen it up.  Then on the top I'll start building it up a little with poly before I scribe cut it to the liner.








After the sides kicked it was time to set it on end to fill in the sides of the face of the deck.  Nice pic of the new width.






One last pic of the hatch support.  I had lam'd another layer of 3/4 oz cloth to the upper edge.  I also, at the last minute (after I took this pic), I added another layer of 3/4oz in the drain trough to seal up one open area.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

May 25, 2014, 07:55:36 PM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #746 on: May 25, 2014, 07:55:36 PM »
Coming out great Rick!  Should look real nice when it is done :thumleft:
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June 01, 2014, 05:04:44 PM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #747 on: June 01, 2014, 05:04:44 PM »
Ok, let's try this again.
Before:


After:


I got it right with the stretcher this time :wink:












Overall not too shabby


I need to pull it back out and clean up everything and get it ready to stick down and glass in. I have probably 2 days work to get it cleaned up and get the new "gutter" system figured out and installed.  I also need to glass in the lower portion of the front "hole" in the liner so it's about 2-3" above the deck.  I really don't use it for much other than to store lines in so it doesn't have to be so big.
I'm not sure if I'll have time to work on it next weekend as I'll be in and out of town over the next couple weeks so I need to get other things done.  So this might be it for the rest of the month.
Nice to have that much done though.  Must be beer thirty   :cheers:
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

July 05, 2014, 11:59:31 AM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #748 on: July 05, 2014, 11:59:31 AM »
Worked a couple half days on the boat - made and glued down the "gutter" system for the front hatch.
I have found some "U-channel moulding" and when it comes in I'll put it over the vertical "gutter".  I will also groove the bottom of the hatch for the rubber to slide into.




Also got the casting deck prepped and pretty much ready to glass in.


Sure is hot out there.  Will start back on the console tomorrow.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

July 05, 2014, 02:32:21 PM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #749 on: July 05, 2014, 02:32:21 PM »
Those are some tight seems and should tab in perfectly. Looking great!!!
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