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August 10, 2016, 06:10:50 PM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #1305 on: August 10, 2016, 06:10:50 PM »
I forgot to update this, thanks for reminding me.  As I said earlier we sprayed a little air in the gauge and it moved.  Last weekend we replaced one seal under the impeller housing (what a PITA - hope they made a change to this in later years) and hooked up the pressure gauge.  Fired up the motor and the pressure at idle seems to be around 6-7 lbs.  I revved the engine a little and saw up to 10lbs  :thumleft:  The engine is done.  I'll take some pics of the hydraulic lines on the vertical Tee's.

Going to try to get a little done this weekend but I need to head out on business Sunday, so it'll be iffy on getting anything done.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

August 14, 2016, 04:49:51 PM
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« Reply #1306 on: August 14, 2016, 04:49:51 PM »
Here are some pics of the "Vertical Tee"s for the hydraulic steering that I installed after a member said that he snapped off the horizontal tee on his when tilting all the way forward- thanks for the tip. :salut2:  Being vertical allows full tilt and doesn't bind when you turn the motor. Port extent of the motor (turning starboard).


Starboard extent of the motor (turning port).


I decided to make some 90 degree angle braces from 4-5 layers of 1708.  This is how I will attach my console.  There really wasn't enough room to glass it down on the inside or outside - you can see the line on the lid - this is the "inside" of the console.
I spent about 6 hours today getting them cut to the right width and height and then drilled holes for 1/4-20 Truss head bolts with fender washers and nylocs under the lid.  Then I bedded them in thickened epoxy and snugged them down with with the bolts - not too much ooze out.
This is the front brace - goes full length across console


The back - about 2/3 width


I put shorter ones on the sides figuring all the stress will be from hanging onto the console while moving and the stress will be either front or back.


Next is to find a good captured nut to bed into the fiberglass so I don't have to wrestle with wrench and screwdriver when I need to set or remove the console.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

August 15, 2016, 07:24:47 AM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #1307 on: August 15, 2016, 07:24:47 AM »
Great work as always Rick!

You are getting closer!!!  :salut2:

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August 28, 2016, 06:16:54 PM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #1308 on: August 28, 2016, 06:16:54 PM »
I lam'd up some cloth scraps about a 1/4" thick and then glued them to the brackets I mounted earlier.  My goal was to get the fiberglass thick enough that T-nuts would not extend past the glass. My buddy helped me set the console on the tank lid and it slid right over the brackets nice and snug.  Then I drilled through the toe kick from the outside and kissed the fiberglass brackets so I knew where to drill the larger hole for the t-nuts. 


Then we removed the console and I went to work drilling the main holes and the 4 holes around each main hole for the teeth of the t-nut.  I made a little jig so that I could mark the 4 holes with a pencil




and then drilled 4 holes per main hole


Then I used a pair of channel locks to squeeze the t-nuts into the holes - nice and snug


Then we set the console back on the lid and tested each 1/4-20 truss head bolt to make sure it mated with the t-nuts. Went together well.


Then we mounted a couple more gauges - Temp and water pressure - hadn't noticed that I ordered a silver ringed temp gauge - DOH!!  Then we mounted a bilge pump switch and the jackplate control.

Next is to get the non-skid on the inside done, then mount the console and the seat. Getting close now.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

August 28, 2016, 06:34:31 PM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #1309 on: August 28, 2016, 06:34:31 PM »
I notice that the stainless piano hinge on the console and the screws that I installed in the front speakers are rusting now. Do I need to wax the hinge before I install it?  Not sure what is going on, haven't even launched yet and already replacing stuff  :think:
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

August 28, 2016, 10:57:36 PM
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Re: RickK's 170 rebuild
« Reply #1310 on: August 28, 2016, 10:57:36 PM »
Wow, looking great Rick!  You are definitely getting close!

Don't know what to say about the rusting stuff.  Damn cheap Chinese crap.
Craig

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1967 22-2 Flatback (Rebuild in progress)

August 29, 2016, 09:17:33 AM
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« Reply #1311 on: August 29, 2016, 09:17:33 AM »
Thanks Craig - the rust is definitely a let down.  I have more piano hinge but don't want to use it until I figure out what to do to prevent it from rusting.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

August 29, 2016, 11:04:24 AM
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« Reply #1312 on: August 29, 2016, 11:04:24 AM »
Hopefully it's just the screws and not the piano hinge.

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August 29, 2016, 01:57:18 PM
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« Reply #1313 on: August 29, 2016, 01:57:18 PM »
Piano hinge, maybe screws too :-(
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

August 29, 2016, 04:50:53 PM
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« Reply #1314 on: August 29, 2016, 04:50:53 PM »
In that case I recommend you dispose of the remaining piano hinge and get another. If you like I can find out whom supplies piano hinges for the boat builder I do work for as I have never seen his rust. I have one that attaches my livewell lid and it is drenched in saltwater every trip, no rust.

EDIT: The hinges he uses are supplied through TACO

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August 29, 2016, 06:06:15 PM
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« Reply #1315 on: August 29, 2016, 06:06:15 PM »
Thanks Blue - I'll search for something by Taco.  :salut2:

Do you think Aluminum hinge would be ok? http://tacomarine.com/category/cat_piano_hinge/Continuous-Hinges

Looks like Worst has TACO sewn up around here.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

August 29, 2016, 06:33:21 PM
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« Reply #1316 on: August 29, 2016, 06:33:21 PM »
Aluminum could be a viable option, you'll just have to take measures to prevent galvanic corrosion if using SS screws. Maybe an aluminum pop rivet?

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August 30, 2016, 06:24:23 AM
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« Reply #1317 on: August 30, 2016, 06:24:23 AM »
Rick, your build is fascinating to watch.  You come up with ingenious solutions to challenges that a lot of folks don't consider.  Well done. 

August 30, 2016, 11:26:30 AM
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« Reply #1318 on: August 30, 2016, 11:26:30 AM »
Thanks.
Rick
1971 "170" with 115 Johnson (It's usable but not 100% finished)

1992 230 Explorer with 250 Yamaha

September 02, 2016, 01:51:36 AM
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« Reply #1319 on: September 02, 2016, 01:51:36 AM »
Stay safe in the scary hurricane Hermine Rick!

 


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