Supertech oil?

[fmaster360]

Does anyone here use it? I've read some threads online, and it doesn't really look bad. That coupled with the half price that it is to the other oils and it's a strong combination...

[wingtime]

As long as it meets TCW3 it should be OK.  But do you want to use the oil that meets the bare minimum?  Or one thats a tad better?

[flounderpounder225]

NEVER use anything but OEM oil....  
Sorry just had to go there  

Seriously, I use Yamalube because I get it at a great price in bulk, $17 per gallon.  I guess if I was going to use something else, it would be the Penzoil semi-synthetic, I know it gets great reviews for less smoke and good performance by many people that have contributed to this topic of discussion on many boating forums.

[fmaster360]

What's the "tad better" oil that you speak of Bruce? I don't mind spending a bit more for something that is substantially better.

[Circle Hooked]

Where are you going to buy your oil, Advanced auto parts has Penzoil semi synthetic for 17 bucks a gallon.

[fmaster360]

I can buy wherever, I was under the impression that the supertech was actually Pennzoil...?

[Circle Hooked]

I was under the impression that the supertech was actually Pennzoil...?

Nope, I'm pretty sure Penzoil and Yamalube are the same though.

[fmaster360]

Here is an interesting thread.

http://www.ultimatebass.com/bass-fishin ... ic=90155.0

EDIT: It would seem that Supertech is manufactured by Specialty Oil Company. WTF is that you ask? A company owned by Shell, Pennzoil-Quaker State Company. The ABILITY for quality is there, but is it?

[gran398]

As long as it meets TCW3 it should be OK.


That's the way I feel. The gubment can regulate fluoride standards in toothpaste, hotdog quality, and our oil industry regulators can go on vacation and send their kids to college courtesy of British Petroleum. Well by golly, they ought to be able to tell TCWIII from TCWII.

I like the absolute dog-cheap TCWIII....as long as the host country throws some blue color in it for familiarity.

[seabob4]

It is just my opinion that the quality of oil we get from regardless, unless it's a propietary synthetic formula, is all basically the same.  

I run Wally World oil in both the Max and the Jetta.  Change religiously at 2500 miles, use Fram ToughGuard filters.  They both run like tops, the '87 Max has 183K and change on her, the Jetta, an '88, believe it or not only has 83K and change!  Both get new plug wires every couple/few years, new dist. caps and rotors, new plugs...chit, probably runs me $300 every couple of years or so between the stuff.

But the Maxima has a 5-speed...awesome tranny, shifts like butter (and I do downshift when slowing), so her gearbox has Royal Purple 75-90.  I've driven late models that don't shift as smooth as her...

So, where oil is used and gone through, i.e. engine oil, I think just about anything out there will do the trick.  Stuff that's not easily changable and is meant to be in there for a while?  Go with the good stuff.  Think of my tranny as your LU...

Just my $.02...

[fmaster360]

And, another great link from not too far ago in mid '08. Looks like Mercury has the second most additives to Yamaha. Funny, for 4stroke motorcycle oil, I always wanted the least additives. Now I guess I want the most. From everything I've read so far, if you want a relatively inexpensive oil, you may was well get the Supertech. It is not noticeably different than any other bottom priced oil. If you want to get better oil, something designed for the direct injection motors (which mine is obviously not), the Quicksilver and Yamalubes are the ones to go to. Ugh.

Edit: For Bob, we recently got rid of our Sentra, which I bought new in 2006. It had 91k on it. I used the cheapest oil I could find, between deals at Auto Zone and Supertech from Walmart. I changed always at NO MORE than 3,500 miles, normally a bit under 3,000. The head of that motor was just as clean as the first time I changed it. I think with that being said, it's a measure of maintenance. If the engine is properly tuned, and well running, oil is just like fuel. You burn through it so fast that it just doesn't matter a whole lot what brand it is. Granted, in a high output situation, a better oil could be used. Thing is, with the engine on my boat having been rebuilt, I wonder if I should use the better oil. Double ugh.

[seabob4]

And, another great link from not too far ago in mid '08. Looks like Mercury has the second most additives to Yamaha. Funny, for 4stroke motorcycle oil, I always wanted the least additives. Now I guess I want the most. From everything I've read so far, if you want a relatively inexpensive oil, you may was well get the Supertech. It is not noticeably different than any other bottom priced oil. If you want to get better oil, something designed for the direct injection motors (which mine is obviously not), the Quicksilver and Yamalubes are the ones to go to. Ugh.

Interesting point.  Actually, the demise of one of the originals, the Ficht, was due to inadequate oiling (lubrication) at the point where the fuel/oil mixture transitioned from the atomized stage to the homogeneous stage.  I would think that an oil designed for Direct Injection 2-strokes would have to be relatively thin (atomization), yet still maintain sufficient viscosity at high RPMs for extended periods of time, viscosity breakdown due to internal temperatures associated with high RPM operation.

[fmaster360]

And that link is actually http://home.comcast.net/~team_dougherty ... sults.html
and
http://www.bassboatcentral.com/oilreports1.htm

[Circle Hooked]

I would think that an oil designed for Direct Injection 2-strokes would have to be relatively thin (atomization), yet still maintain sufficient viscosity at high RPMs for extended periods of time, viscosity breakdown due to internal temperatures associated with high RPM operation.

Bob that sounds like a Castrol commercial  

[seabob4]

I would think that an oil designed for Direct Injection 2-strokes would have to be relatively thin (atomization), yet still maintain sufficient viscosity at high RPMs for extended periods of time, viscosity breakdown due to internal temperatures associated with high RPM operation.

Bob that sounds like a Castrol commercial  

You got me laughing on that one Scott!!

"OMG, did I just say that?"