Just like the Search feature and Lewis' Intro thread (which is the very first thing one sees when browsing the Forum),You can lead a horse to water........... :| I do agree with Bob. As long as there are internet forums,there will always be those who will post a question (that has been discussed ad nauseam) rather than take the time to discover the answer. It's the nature of some humans so............Swap it with Chum so it brackets Discussion and Electronics and maybe spruce up the subtitles. Couldn't hurt. PS... While we're in forum topics, Bob you might like to set up your business in the Vendor forum since it now languishes in that Resource tomb