Engine options on 200 CCP

[SeaCue]

Just looking for opinions here guys before I dive into either direction on these projects.
First a little background.  I have several boats/engines from which to choose for this rebuild.  (not related to this post but I also own a '72 Scottie Craft Flybridge Sportfisher that is currently being relieved of its Volvo AQ130's and 280 outdrives in favor of twin Evinrude Ocean Pro 175 FICHT's on a bracket.)  Also am dry docking my '81 Tiara 3100 in my shop next month for bottom paint, zincs, cutlass bearings, thru-hull replacements and possibly engine rebuilds.  It has twin Mercruiser FWC 260's with Borg Warner velvet drives that have given me fits for the last year and a half.... But I digress, sorry.  Back to the Aquasports.

I own a '98 Osprey 200 that I half way restored three years ago and then started using it as my stone crab boat.  As you can imagine, after 3 years of stone crabbing it looks kinda rough.  I plan to take it down to bare glass and  do new gel coat and non skid, new rub rails, etc.  All electronics, wiring, switches and gauges were replaced three years ago.  This boat has a '98 Ocean Pro 115 that is absolutely bullet proof.  I LOVE that engine!  I have replaced the water pump, lower unit seals, voltage regulator and plugs and that motor has never given me a minute of grief.  Which brings me to the next question...

I recently picked up an '82 Aquasport 200 CCP that has now stolen my interest to the point I am going to sell both my Tiara and the 200 Osprey!  The 200 CCP is trailered right beside the 200 Osprey in my shop... WOW what a difference in 20 ft boats!

The CCP came with two engines, BOTH blown! ( yeah the prior owner must have been quite the tool.... How the hell do you kill TWO Ocean Pros?  Anyway, on the boat there is a '96 Ocean Pro 225 with a blown #4 cylinder.  On a stand is a 2000 Ocean Pro 200 with a blown #3 cylinder.  I plan to rebuild both engines  and was going to try both on the boat with thoughts of keeping one of them and selling the other.  But in doing research on here I have found that I only have a 50 gallon tank in the CCP.  I don't see any way that this is going to be compatible with my fishing needs.  My 115 burns 6 GPH at cruise (4000RPM) so I figure the 225 to burn 12-14 GPH at 4000RPM.  

SO... here come the questions.

Anyone ever put twin 115 Ocean Pros on a 200 CCP?   This is the same fuel consumption as the 225 with the added safety of twins as I fish FAR offshore.  ( I can take the 115 off the Osprey, buy another and put them on the CCP, then put the 200 on the Osprey and sell it.)  Of course I will have to close the transom and put a floatation bracket on it to support the engines but I am still adding better than 200 pounds to the engine weight.

I know there is quite a bit of wasted space under the forward deck where I can add addition fuel tank capacity to balance the bracket and compensate for the weight shift BUT....

Anyone have a 200 CCP with a 150 four stroke that can give me any performance and fuel economy figures?  If the 4 stroke will give me the range and economy I need without the need for additional tankage then so much the better.  I have a chance to buy an '05 Yamaha F150 four stroke at a ridiculous price (I can buy wholesale at auction with a dealer license)
I am leaning towards putting the Yamaha F150 on it if I can get acceptable feedback numbers from someone who has done it.

BTW, for what it's worth, I also already have a 9.9 HP Yamaha four stroke to use as a "kicker" on this boat if I opt to go single engine installation.

ANY thought would be greatly appreciated as I am running in circles here!   Too many projects at once....( wife swears I have ADD :)

Thanks in advance
Chris

[Capt. Bob]

But in doing research on here I have found that I only have a 50 gallon tank in the CCP.  

 
By research I take it you have removed the tank and measured it.
73 gal. was a fairly standard factory size for the 200 CCP but I've never owned one so....

The Resource forum has a thread on posted members tank sizes and there is limited data on newer model 200 CCPs in the Photo Gallery section.

[SeaCue]

Thanks Capt. Bob.... Actually I  was going by an Aquasport "spec" sheet I found on here.  But now I am encouraged by your reply and will go ahead and open it up and look.  

Chris

[wingtime]

I agree with the other guys.  That is the same hull as my 200XF.  It should have a 73 gallon tank.  Unless the PO (tool) replaced it with a smaller tank.  The tank is 6' long.

[SeaCue]

Thanks guys!  I tried to get into it today and check but only managed to get the console loose and a few coffin box screws out before I was called away.  Probably be this weekend before I open it up.  Will post pix of everything then for those that are interested.  I am pretty confident after viewing the links you sent me that I have 73 gallons.

I am trying to find the link where I found the "aquasport specs" on this site....  It was an excel spreadsheet that listed all models and general specifications. Will direct you to it when I am able to successfully locate the source.

Still curious.... Is there anybody out there running a 200 CCP with a 150HP four stroke? or maybe twin 115 two-stokes?

I would really like to know if either of these has been done before before I proceed further with engine options/purchases.

Thanks!

Chris

[jdupree]

Having owned a 200 CCP here is my opinion.  I would keep the weight down with your engine choice.  My main complaint with the 200 was the "wet feet" from the scuppers being below the waterline.  Just a couple of guys in the back and you will have a wet deck.  Not sure what a 150 4 stroke weighs, but I would take that into consideration when you repower.

I had a Mercury 200 2 stroke on mine.  Pushed the hull real well.  If the 150 4 stroke and a 200 2 stroke weigh about the same you should be fine.

[wingtime]

I agree with jdupree...   My XF is probably a little heavier in the front due to the cabin.  With the 200HP, a full live well and two guys near the stern I would water in the scuppers.   Not bad but if a third person was back there look out you would have wet feet.  I put a set of ball scuppers on mine and now my decks are nice and dry.   I'd research the weight of the four stroke compared to what you have now.

[Blue Agave]

4 strokes weigh cosiderably more than 2 strokes. Good luck and let us know what you decide.

[RickK]

My 230 surprised me - on the 3rd gathering we all connected into a big raft and I think I had 8 people in the back of the boat (from cabin door aft) - never phased her - was initially concerned but never saw water coming into the scuppers - then started worrying more of the MP coming by looking for "something".

[Capt. Bob]

I had my expandable plugs on hand for the Keys trip but never used them. I was the lightest male on board and the scuppers worked fine, even in the heavy shower we got caught in. Mine are the flapper style but are only a year old. I think the WACs just ride higher and can support more weight in the stern.

SeaCue
Have you pondered a 175 Zuke 4 stroker? Not that much heavier.

[gran398]

SeaCue
Have you pondered a 175 Zuke 4 stroker? Not that much heavier.

Agree. Highly rated, great torque for a 4S. Less money too than the competition. The local rental fleet...all they will run are 4S Suzi's.

[SeaCue]

Thanks for the input guys.  
Looks like the 150 Yamaha is heavier at 475lbs than the 200 Johnson at 455lbs.
Either engine will be bracketed as I am closing in the transom and building in a pressurized live well where the engine currently sits.  Anyone with a 200CCP knows that the clearance between a leaning post and the splash well/ live well cutout is very small.  I stand to gain a good 18" by redoing the stern configuration and bracketing the engine and kicker.  BTW the 9.9 Yamaha kicker is something like 125lbs itself.

I just can't resist the fuel consumption numbers of the 150 Yamaha. 6-7 gph at cruise as opposed to 12-16 with the Johnson.

I am going to research the 175 Suzuki, may be a viable option.  I am only suggesting the 150 Yamaha because I can get at at a ridiculous price.

Got the console off and fuel tank removed (looks old, probably leaks, going to replace) and then I have been busy with visiting family.  Should get back on track next week.  Going to try and figure out how to post pix later this week too.
Thanks Again

[seabob4]

SC,
Keep in mind the savings in purchase price versus the cost of increased fuel consumption.  Depending on your yearly usage, it could take quite some time in fuel cost savings to recoup the purchase price differential...and then you have the maintainance that those hours will bring with it...

Just food for thought.