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May 02, 2013, 02:02:01 PM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailer
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2013, 02:02:01 PM »
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Marc, I was talking to my trailer guy about this and he said 3500 lbs axles will be more than enough. He also mentioned what springs you are running is key. So your on the right track. Don't go too heavy on the sings though. My 200xf trailer was riding on 3000 lbs springs!  :shock:  Talk about stiff!

just going from 1750# to 2000# on each spring, one step up
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May 02, 2013, 02:05:35 PM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailer
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2013, 02:05:35 PM »
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Quote from: "wingtime"
Marc, I was talking to my trailer guy about this and he said 3500 lbs axles will be more than enough. He also mentioned what springs you are running is key. So your on the right track. Don't go too heavy on the sings though. My 200xf trailer was riding on 3000 lbs springs!  :shock:  Talk about stiff!

just going from 1750# to 2000# on each spring, one step up

Perfect!  :cheers:
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May 05, 2013, 08:36:26 PM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailer
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2013, 08:36:26 PM »
Well, I've been working on it all weekend, it's coming along, I got a great deal from Eddie English trailers here in Pensacola on kodiak brakes, so I just went with them instead of the new tie down G5s the G5's have pretty good reviews but they have only been out for about a year and a half, and the kodiaks are a proven thing.  I got the whole deal, stainless calipers, the dacromet slip over rotors, so I use my existing hubs, premium brake line kit, and a new Titan coupler actuator with the reverse solenoid already installed for $570.  The same deal was $506 from an online retailer but for the tie down G5's.  All the bunks are on, now waiting on the new axles to be built, should be done this week.  Hopefully put it all together next weekend.  The only pain was today when I shot a duo fast staple into my thumb while stapling the new bunk carpet, but it was only 3/4 inch long and it hit the bone so it was easy to pull out, but I did get blood all over my new bunks :shock: Pics of before and after will be coming, just can't post them from this iPad.
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May 09, 2013, 08:50:39 PM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailer
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2013, 08:50:39 PM »
got a few pictures, I finally got the new axles, hopefully install them this weekend.  got the bunks rearranged last weekend, you can see I added the center keel bunks all the way from the back to the FWD cross member.  After thought, Im thinking this may or may not work so well.. with the sharp deadrise of the bow angling them inward, how will the stern of the boat sit?  Almost on the edges of the 2x8's unless the weight of the boat twists them a little?  we'll see when I sit her big butt down on there :lol:

The original set up

you can see the rollers were getting crunched

The new set up

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May 10, 2013, 09:22:07 AM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailer
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2013, 09:22:07 AM »
Hey Marc...

Sorry to hear about your thumb..  I broke mine about a month ago via my winch handle spinning in excess of a million miles an hour and of course my delusions that I could actually grab it and stop my boat from sliding off the trailer. The handle hit right past my last knuckle.. OMG... I cant begin to explain the pain..  Pic for your entertainment with my second Sailor Jerry's rum and coke in the background.   Needless to say I am more careful now plus put a new winch on with a better handle and a ratcheted reverse not prone to slippage.



Anyway, I was eyeballing those keel bunks.. do you think she may teeter when loaded as the front keel on our boat is deeper than the back.. Maybe a dumb ? but I thought I might ask.  Cool project though!

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Bruce
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May 10, 2013, 10:08:33 AM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailer
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2013, 10:08:33 AM »
OWE!! SON OF A.... BIEOCH :shock: As far as the bunks, I dont think she will teeter, because the boat is heavy enough to lay into the rear outer support bunks, what it is going to do to the aft end of the keel bunk is another story... the boat is either going to sit on the edges of the those keel bunk boards, or twist them longitudinally and make them conform.  Also, I may cut the back half of the keel bunk boards off, and just leave the FWD portion for the deeper entry of the bow to guide up. There will definitely be adjustments to be made once the boat is back on.. EDUCATION: Not easy... Not Cheap... :lol:    

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Hey Marc...

Sorry to hear about your thumb..  I broke mine about a month ago via my winch handle spinning in excess of a million miles an hour and of course my delusions that I could actually grab it and stop my boat from sliding off the trailer. The handle hit right past my last knuckle.. OMG... I cant begin to explain the pain..  Pic for your entertainment with my second Sailor Jerry's rum and coke in the background.   Needless to say I am more careful now plus put a new winch on with a better handle and a ratcheted reverse not prone to slippage.



Anyway, I was eyeballing those keel bunks.. do you think she may teeter when loaded as the front keel on our boat is deeper than the back.. Maybe a dumb ? but I thought I might ask.  Cool project though!

Kind Regards,

Bruce
Marc
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May 18, 2013, 08:13:36 AM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailers
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2013, 08:13:36 AM »
How does this set up work Marc?  The Osprey is in the lake and when we launched the Big Boss said it was time to ditch the wobble wheels.  Only appropriate response was "Yes Ma'am!".  So I have been lookiing at what the Brethren have been up too and your setup has the most hull support area.  

Does she slid off and on easily or do you use the engine to assist?


Scotty how 'bout Miss D?  Same question..

Thanks!
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May 18, 2013, 08:43:55 AM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailers
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2013, 08:43:55 AM »
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How does this set up work Marc?  The Osprey is in the lake and when we launched the Big Boss said it was time to ditch the wobble wheels.  Only appropriate response was "Yes Ma'am!".  So I have been lookiing at what the Brethren have been up too and your setup has the most hull support area.  

Does she slid off and on easily or do you use the engine to assist?


Scotty how 'bout Miss D?  Same question..

Thanks!

I'll let everyone know after tomorrow, we are going out for the day.  From the looks of it, it is PERFECT, I have so much support across the entire hull, and the full length keel bunk rises up nicely in the FWD end so the bow is up, the osprey has such a deep fore-foot it seems like I had to crank the trailer so high to get the water to run aft in the boat, and if connected to the truck the water would congregate up around the casting platform, now the boat drains nicely even if connected to the truck, and those kodiak stainless discs are the bomb... Now the boat slows the truck down instead of pushing it... More later...
Marc
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May 19, 2013, 09:10:53 PM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailer
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2013, 09:10:53 PM »
:cheers:  :cheers: short of buying a new custom fit trailer, this was the best thing I could have done.  the set up is perfect, took her this morning for some fuel, and layed into the brakes a couple times at 45-50 mph, and those kodiaks just slowed me down like I was barely hauling 8K pounds of boat and trailer.  the bunk redesign worked awesome, she slid off the trailer straightline, no dip off like before when the keel left a roller, and reload was a breeze, slid right up to the bow roller with very little power, and dead level.  here are the final pics with the boat on the trailer.  apparently the difference in the deadrise from bow to stern along the 14 ft of 2x8 was not significant enough to cause a problem, and the wood just conformed to the hull, cradles her very nicely...






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May 20, 2013, 05:23:22 AM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailer
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2013, 05:23:22 AM »
That's great Marc.
The new Kodiak system on my 230 worked like a charm also during the tow to Crystal River - great brakes.
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May 20, 2013, 08:03:10 AM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailer
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2013, 08:03:10 AM »
Wow I am glad it works so well!
It looks like one of the inner bunks is scratching the paint. Before I load mine back on my trailer I check the bunks for pieces of shells that have been in bedded
in the carpet. Not sure if thats the case or not but it will wear through over time.
Again it looks great!
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May 20, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
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Re: Marc-Time needs a trailer
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2013, 11:50:59 AM »
She looks great Marc, nice job!

Dave, Miss D comes off easy too. She just slid right off Friday night when my neighbor bumped the brakes...she wasn't even cranked yet :lol:

 


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