late 80's 250 ccp

[orb]

I have friend that is looking at a late 80's 250 ccp, for about 4k without a trailer. it has an early 90's johnson 200 on it. what do you guys think about the price? I may go look at it with him. What is the general census on this model? what is the deadrise at the transom, and how does it ride? Is 200 hp enough for the boat? What potential problems should i look for?

thanks
oliver

[JoseGaspar]

Hi Oliver,  I have an '87 250ccp with a 200hp suzuki.  Boat is great, handles well in all conditions, I absolutely love it.  I am in the process of repowering and am going to move up to a 225 or 250.  The 200 gets the job done but for me, I was looking @ 30 knots @ 5000 rpm.  That may have been improved with some different prop options, not sure.  I fish 40 miles offshore and just looking to get in and out a little quicker, so I am bumping up the horsepower while I have the chance.

The price point depends on how the boat is equipped.  Does it have a t-top, any electronics come with her, trim tabs, etc. There are a lot of really smart people on this board who may have some specifics on what to look for, but the general rules apply, compression test on the motor, soft spots on the deck, functionality of existing equipment, etc.

JG

[Blue Agave]

Great hull but they are notorious for soft rotten floors. I believe she has a 20 degree dead rise.

[gran398]

Hi Oliver,

A friend of mine had the same model, fished on it quite a bit. His had twin Yamaha 115 V-4's.

The boat ran REAL good. Especially tabbed down  in a head sea. It was pretty fast too, ran in the mid-forties WOT.

He bought it new, about 4 months later he discovered the stringer tabs had delaminated midships forward. ....probably a bad kick on the resin. The factory made it good, and he hasn't had a minutes' trouble since. He still owns the boat, she is on her second set of 115's.

Yep, based upon fishing her...I'd say the single 200 isn't enough. Seems like its rated to 300 horse.....a single 250 would do it....but twins would be the first choice IMHO.

Would be cool if you could pick her up hull only for 1500 or so....

Take care

[wingtime]

The early 90's 200HP is worth maybe $2000 or so if it is clean.  That leaves $2000 for the hull and what ever else it comes with. It would have to be pretty clean for that price.   I'd say the big question is how solid are the floors and transom.  Offer the guy $3000 and maybe he will settle on $3500.

[Capt. Bob]

[orb]

thanks. I figured it would ride better than the modified vee's, like my 70's 240 project. It would be great to pick it up for 3k or so. Like i said, it does not come with a trailer. It does have trim tabs, not sure about electronics, but the guy says it needs tlc. It does have a t-top. He says the motor has not been run in a while. I was planning on testing the compression and such. I am thinking 4k is a little high if it needs much work. I fear that the floors and or the transom may be soft.

How can you tell if a transom is rotten, without drilling a hole? Tap around with hammer?

[Capt. Bob]

How can you tell if a transom is rotten, without drilling a hole? Tap around with hammer?

Only x-ray vision works better.

Take your time and listen for that "dull" thud.
A solid transom has that sharp "rap". Check down low especially around the tabs and the lifting rings.

Good luck and I hope the old gal can be saved.

[wingtime]

Bring along a hard plastic hammer and rap on the transom with it listening for the sounds Capt Bob described.   Tilt up the motor nice and high and pull up and down on it hard while a buddy looks at the transom for flex.

[Georgie]

Maybe this will help?

http://www.classicaquasport.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10634

[jdupree]

Great hull but they are notorious for soft rotten floors. I believe she has a 20 degree dead rise.

I would not say they are notorious for rotten floors.  

I have owned a 200 CCP and a 222 CCP.  Both have solid decks.  The main culprit for rotten decks on the CCP is usually the deck hatch in front on the coffin box.  It was not sealed properly from the factory.  That is where the water intrusion started.  Both of my CCP'S did not have that deck hatch and my decks are solid.  Even if you have the deck hatch, if caught early enough and resealed it would not be a problem.  Gonefission has the deck hatch and his decks are solid.  That deck hatch appeared to be an factory option.  A good number of CCP'S have them and some don't.

The CCP'S are like most other boats, if holes in the deck are not sealed properly, it can lead to rot.  I don't think they are prone to deck rot any more than any other Aquasport.

[Capt. Bob]

Great hull but they are notorious for soft rotten floors. I believe she has a 20 degree dead rise.

The CCP'S are like most other boats, if holes in the deck are not sealed properly, it can lead to rot.  I don't think they are prone to deck rot any more than any other Aquasport.

Mine had the factory hatch and a "bin" in front of the coffin. I replaced the hatch early on (it now resides in my WAC) but the damage was already started. I used the infamous "Git Rot" product and a lot of holes. That repair lasted over 14 years and I'm not certain it has been redone.

That area in the front spans a large distance between those big stringers and even with good decking can have a little flex. CCPs have that hatch, a large fish box (aka coffin), the center console, seating and possibly a t-top all penetrating the deck. Lot of room for rot to start if not sealed correctly.