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July 13, 2011, 08:57:28 AM
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Re: Motor model identification help
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2011, 08:57:28 AM »
That may not be the only thing missing. I don’t see any power packs or a rect. So what else may be missing??????? Check under the fly wheel and make sure the stator is there.

Hey what give with those colored and underlined words???????? I'm not putting them in.

July 15, 2011, 01:47:35 PM
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Woodinator

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Re: Motor model identification help
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2011, 01:47:35 PM »
Spec,

Replied to your other thread about the boat, but I'm on my third rebuild of one of these motors so I figured I would add my 2 cents.  The guys are right about it being a piece motor.  The cylinder heads actually look like they might be from a Johnson, and if it was truly a 140HP it would have the bubbleback exhaust housing which it doesn't.  If you do get a starter for it, the normal compression range for these engines is between 100 and 120.  If all 4 check out, it honestly might be worth putting a few $$ into b/c these engines are VERY simple to work on so you won't have to pay oodles to a professinal for most of the work you might need to do, they were honestly dependable (hence why OMC kept making them for 25 years) and you won't be able to get a cheaper engine to make the boat run.  If the cylinders ultimately don't check out, then it's probably not worth rebuilding at all due to parts and labor involved.  

Regarding that model number, I actually can't get a production year out of it.  Are you sure you typed it accurately?..and where did that number come from?...a sticker on the mounting bracket or the round silver engraved plate on the top of the powerhead?  Doesn't really matter though b/c it's definitely an early 80's V4 crossflow engine according to the Evinrude model number you posted, but it also appears to be a pre-80 Johnson according to the other serial number you posted.   :scratch: You can order any parts you need based on that information alone. Almost all the parts for these engines are interchangeable across many years and models.  

I do have to say it doesn't look like a very happy motor, but looks can be deceiving.   I'd just use the compression check as your answer to whether it's worth putting back together.  Can you spin the flywheel by hand to see if it's frozen?  The powerpacks, rectifier, and stater are still there so it looks like primarily just the starter is missing.  Also, the starter from the 88 special should work for this engine as well.  I believe I have and can scan and send you the electrical schematic from this motor if you ultimately do decide to investigate the wiring.  I'd also try to see if the tilt/trim works since they are so expensive to replace.

Hope that helps,
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August 03, 2011, 03:26:24 PM
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Spectre5922

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Re: Motor model identification help
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2011, 03:26:24 PM »
Quote from: "akbridge"
Looks like a mix and match motor.  If it were me, I would try to get it running.    If it runs, it will be slow.  But run that engine until you are tired of putting time and fuel into it.  Then upgrade to a modern engine.  
I think I may have a starter for that engine.  Does anyone know if a starter off a 1988 88 special will fit his.  If it does, pay shipping and it is yours!
Also it looks like it has not been over heated.  I don't see any melted plastics and corrosion on the block and bolts is not too bad.  I have said it before...those are the small block 350s of outboards.  You can beat them up and they still run.

AK.....  I checked into it with my mechanic and he said the starter from an 88 will work. If the offer is still open, could you please let me know what shipping to 77539 would run? It would be worth it to see if I can get it running for cheap. If it is not cost effective to get it running, I will at least be able to sell it as a complete parts motor to regain a fee $$ towards the build.

Let me know......
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Old 1982 Evinrude Sea King 140

August 04, 2011, 05:28:56 PM
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Re: Motor model identification help
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2011, 05:28:56 PM »
BTW guys.....

I looked at my motor a lot closer this morning.  You were absolutely right.  I got the model number a little off.  The tag is so old that it was very hard to read.  I think I have it right this time.  According to what I am seeing now, it is an E140TRLCNB.  According to what I'm finding, that would make it a 1982 model.  I did not see anything that specified it being a Sea King, but I don't know if it should.  I found a parts list for that motor and see that things like the crankshaft, pistons, engine cover, etc are no longer available.  Now it is really making me wonder if it is worth trying to get running or just sell it as a complete parts motor and use the $$$ to help fund some of the build.
1976 Aquasport 19-6
Old 1982 Evinrude Sea King 140

August 04, 2011, 06:50:49 PM
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Re: Motor model identification help
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2011, 06:50:49 PM »
Its really not worth anything.... Not putting any money in it is loss prevention. Start working on the rebuild plan and at some point, start looking for an engine in the future. The gearcase and power trim unit are were the value lies for someone that needs one. You are better off unbolting each of them and try an ebay sale. Scrap the rest.
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September 14, 2011, 10:22:19 AM
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Re: Motor questions...... Two choices
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2011, 10:22:19 AM »
Okay....  What do you guys think about this motor?  It is a '77 Evinrude 115.  We have already checked to compression, and it has 95-97 psi on 3 cylinders and around 103 psi on the fourth.  I know it's 5 years older than the 140, but it's also pretty clean for a motor of that age and is 100% complete.









Does anyone have any experience with these motors?  Are there any things that I need to be concerned about or look for with this particular model?
1976 Aquasport 19-6
Old 1982 Evinrude Sea King 140

September 14, 2011, 10:35:49 AM
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Re: Motor model identification help
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2011, 10:35:49 AM »
If it hasn't been replaced check the stator for overheating. When you pull the flywheel you can usually smell the cooked electric smell. Pull the plugs and check the compression, that will give you more info about the piston, ring condition.

Check out this thread on iboats, there is a lot of info there.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=299680
Lewis
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September 14, 2011, 10:38:58 AM
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Re: Motor model identification help
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2011, 10:38:58 AM »
Quote from: "saltfly"

Hey what give with those colored and underlined words???????? I'm not putting them in.

Maybe the Forum is trying to tell you something. :idea:
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September 14, 2011, 02:15:21 PM
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Re: Motor questions...... Two choices
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2011, 02:15:21 PM »
Quote from: "Spectre5922"
Okay....  What do you guys think about this motor?  It is a '77 Evinrude 115.  We have already checked to compression, and it has 95-97 psi on 3 cylinders and around 103 psi on the fourth.  I know it's 5 years older than the 140, but it's also pretty clean for a motor of that age and is 100% complete.









Does anyone have any experience with these motors?  Are there any things that I need to be concerned about or look for with this particular model?

The V-4's were great motors, however I would not give much if anything for one that old, see that external tilt trim unit??  if that goes south, your done, there ain't nothing like that out there that is readily available, the corrosion holding that old motor to the mid section, the lower unit bolts, all that stuff will be your personal nightmare.
Marc
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September 14, 2011, 08:13:05 PM
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Re: Motor model identification help
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2011, 08:13:05 PM »
The good thing is that the motor was free....    :D
1976 Aquasport 19-6
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