overturned 1972 196

[seabob4]

So the cop who is the HM calls the salvage company...which is probably owned by the brother-in-law...

Where are you located?  Sorry, just saw it, Narragansett Bay...

Cozy little place?

[gran398]

Absolutely not...refuse any payment, get a friend there pronto, pull the boat!  The local scum is on you, taking advantage, like a bunch of locusts. And as SB says, isn't it interesting that the local Po-Po is also involved in the salvage. Probably family/cousins/wives of cousins etc. Have had a lot of experience with all that, small-town politricks. Not pretty, and if you acquiesce, we'll lose.  Don't succumb to their wiles/methods.

SB recommended that you file a police report at the local station. You did that, good deal....but here's the kicker. IMMEDIATELY file a report with the county Sheriff. In general, the Sheriiff and the local PD detest each other. In any town, they're always fighting for air-time, who can do the best job, who can get the most press....take advantage of that. And take advantage that they're always campaigning for the next election. Pit the PD against the Sheriff Department. Let them keep this news story in the news.

FORGET paying ANY of them ANY money.....don't do it. You need help on embarassing locals? We hold a world of hurt here.

[seabob4]

Chicago politics at it's best, Scott...

My Mom and Mayor Daley lived 7 blocks apart when she was growing up...

[fitz73222]

Heres a coincidental story,

Years ago, one of our customers had a 22-2 that did it twice! Now boats have been known to overturn after sinking due to trapped air in the inner hull, so that may be the case here. This boat was parked in a back canal away from all boat traffic. This boat self bailed with twin 70`s so it wasnt a ball scupper issue that stuck open. The boat was parked next to an overhanging dock with the engines tilted up and we guessed that the motors hung up under the dock during a rising tide and pushed the stern down, causing the boat to sink, self bailing became self filling as the water rose during the incoming tide. Do you have ball scuppers on the boat? A small piece of trash that lodges in the ball seat is all it takes to start taking on water if the drains are below the waterline.

[msheehan1]

Question:

The salvage guys wants 1900, the engine guy want 750.  I paid 2400 for all, is it worth it?

Also what are my rights?  Do I have to pay the salvage guy or just give him the boat, he claims that he will take me to court, but who knows.  I do not want to screw a local person, and he seems very honest to me about how to handle this.

[msheehan1]

Do you have ball scuppers on the boat?

Yes it does have those and they were out so that could have happen, but it would have to take on a lot of water

[Aswaff400]

Heres a coincidental story,

Years ago, one of our customers had a 22-2 that did it twice! Now boats have been known to overturn after sinking due to trapped air in the inner hull, so that may be the case here. This boat was parked in a back canal away from all boat traffic. This boat self bailed with twin 70`s so it wasnt a ball scupper issue that stuck open. The boat was parked next to an overhanging dock with the engines tilted up and we guessed that the motors hung up under the dock during a rising tide and pushed the stern down, causing the boat to sink, self bailing became self filling as the water rose during the incoming tide. Do you have ball scuppers on the boat? A small piece of trash that lodges in the ball seat is all it takes to start taking on water if the drains are below the waterline.

ive seen that happen 5 times at my work, 2 times to the same boat. customer returns to the dock, at low tide, after we close for the day, ties way too much slack in the line, boat drifts back and under the dock on the incoming tide, pushed the transom down till the boat goes under... ive also seen it happen to one boat where the bow cleat got hung up under the dock on an incoming tide...

[gran398]

Question:

The salvage guys wants 1900, the engine guy want 750.  I paid 2400 for all, is it worth it?

Also what are my rights?  Do I have to pay the salvage guy or just give him the boat, he claims that he will take me to court, but who knows.  I do not want to screw a local person, and he seems very honest to me about how to handle this.

If the salvage guy has taken posession, he now has what in maritime law is similar to a mechanic's lien. I would think that you could ask him how much time he has in it, and make him an offer....say no more than 500 dollars.

He probably would rather have the quick cash, JMHO. That way he's not dealing with a clouded title. And the engine guy....how does he fit in?

[msheehan1]

After an hour of negotiating and my engine at risk since it out of the water, I settle for 1000, not much I could do. :(

I still would like to know how this happened and how to make sure it never happens again.

[msheehan1]

Thanks everyone for your help.

[bumpster]

Engine guy? I sunk my 17 angler more than once when i was a youngster and I can tell you that as long as you got it above water and didnt let it sit all you need to do is pull the plugs out and drain the carbs. Once the carbs are drained pump gasinto them and crank till nothing blows out of the cycl. Put the plugs back in and crank it, once it starts let it run to burn any excess water and the engine is pretty much fixed.

[gran398]

Thanks everyone for your help.

At the very least, you got her back. A fine girl like that is worth spending money on....

Appreciate your presence, stick around, let us know how she turns out.

[msheehan1]

Hi everyone,

I am back, I am finally getting around to fixing the boat.  The engine was repaired and runs. I had him do the minimal since I was paying for it out of my pocket. The engine guy mentioned that I would have to replace the battery cables.  Should all the wiring/switches/gauges be replaced?

I will start draining the gas only a few gallons in it.  Any good suggestion on doing that and then getting the water out?

The steering is not moving either, how do I loosen up the linkage look like it moving but the piston on the engine does not move?  WD-40?  heat?  Can I remove the huge bolt underneath the steering wheel so I can remove the center console?  If not how do I remove the center console?

Any other things you can think of?  

Thanks for your help.

Mike Sheehan

[saltfly]

This was in a Marina and could have been put under by a rising tide and got caught under a dock. But that takes time. No one saw it? Give me a break. The harbor master was their how long after it sunk?  Or was he waiting for it to sink? But we are only talking about a 19-6 here. $1900 to bring it in. come on now. You can flip her in the water and slowly pull her up onto a submerged trailer. For a whole lot less then  $1900. their is something fishy up there.  Maybe I’m just use to the way things are in big cities with all the corruption that makes me cynical.  Some times people that take you can make you think they are your best friend. I would talk to a lawyer. Do you work for a large company?  If so, some time they have lawyers on site. Talk to one.  The harbor Master had to get it out of the water because of the gas. But if non was leaking he could have called you first. But if their was gas leaking, he had no choice. But some thing still stinks to me.