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January 05, 2016, 07:02:16 PM
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Jim Hodge

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inverters
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we purchased a 1987 Aquasport 290 TM,   found out the guy we bought it from took the inverter. question. can anyone suggest one for this boat.There are so many out there. i know it depends on what we are going to run. simple stuff, nothing crazy. Someone suggested 1000 watts. We have a charger already so we do not need that included. appreciate the help.

January 05, 2016, 07:16:38 PM
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RickK

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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2016, 07:16:38 PM »
Did they leave the genny or did it not have one?  What fridge do you have - electric, propane, microwave?  What kind of AC devices are you thinking about running? I have a buddy that uses a snoring machine with a 1700W inverter and it runs his batteries down so that he is ready to charge the batteries before he goes to sleep the second night.
I have a Honda e2000i generator/inverter that is all I need on my 230 Explorer.  I use it to charge batteries when out for a few days so I don't have to run the engine (my old outboard is a stator model so idling does nothing) and when camping in the summer to run a window shaker for the cabin.  Runs that for 7 hrs on a gal of gas. You can hang meat in there when it's running.
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January 05, 2016, 09:36:49 PM
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2016, 09:36:49 PM »
NADA lists various inverter/charger from 600W to 3000W but I can find no reference to an inverter (only a 15a converter) in any of the sales material we have in the Forum Gallery. These docs list damn near everything you could think of but no inverter. Certainly doesn't mean it wasn't offered so.......

Since your limited only by mounting space and your pocketbook, I would suggest the biggest you can get to fit both.

Good luck.  :thumright:
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January 07, 2016, 11:14:40 AM
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2016, 11:14:40 AM »
Others may differ on this, but IMHO - inverters are not of much use on a boat assuming you have marine-grade equipment installed.  Inverters take a lot of 12V juice to power 120V accessories.  You usually need at least one 8D battery connected to the inverter if you want any sort of life under a reasonable load.  8D batts weigh about 125 lbs - so you are adding a lot of weight there!  A small genset might be a better choice. 

So when would you use the inverter?  Got a frig?  Most marine frig units are dual-power and you can run them off your 12v system while the engines are running, then turn it off so you don't drain the battery.  The frig on my cruiser will stay cold for 2 days without power, so I just keep it on the 120 volt source because I know I will run the generator at least once a day when we are out on the water.  What about 120V lights?  Again, most boats have 12 volt lights, and you can run those as long as you want if you change the bulbs to LEDs.  Television?  TV's are easy to find that run on 12 VDC - in fact the circuit boards on many LED/LCD televisions are 12 volt based.  The big deal would be air conditioning - but an inverter that would run an A/C unit (think 10-15 amps at 120V here) would cost $2,000-$3,000 and require some monster battery source to run for very long.  Again, here is where a genset makes sense.  You can run a 12,000-16,000 BTU air conditioning unit with a 2,000 watt generator if you get something like the SmartStart that reduces startup load. 

The modern generators like the Honda 2000 are very popular, well-made, and quiet, but they are not water cooled or designed for enclosed use like a marine generator.  You would need to have one of the Honda generators located on a swim platform or somewhere in open air.  A marine generator can be installed in a compartment and permanently wired into the boat's electrical system.  But there is BIG difference in the cost of a Honda and a marine generator!  Figure $7,500-$10,000 for a good marine generator (4-7 KW) installed with wiring and controls. 

One more option (not real popular) is a 120 VAC alternator for one of the main engines.  In this case, you get your AC current off a second alternator on one of the mains that is wired to produce 120 VAC.  Some small RVs use these when they don't have room for a generator or a big battery bank.  Not a bad choice, but you have to keep the engine running to get your AC current.  Also the alternator needs to be marine rated for use in the engine compartment and those are hard to find and somewhat expensive. 

I had a 1500W inverter on a previous boat but almost never used it.  It would not run the A/C, and used a lot of battery power to run the frig.  About the only time we used the inverter was to run my wife's 900W hair dryer - and I usually ran one of the mains when using the inverter to keep the battery charged - that seems to defeat the purpose.  Maybe a 12V hair dryer would be a better choice? 

So you need to decide what your needs are and what option best fits them.  The inverter route seems only to work for some specific, low-current application that requires 120 VAC and can't run on 12V.  I was thinking laptop, but then realized it's easy to find 12 VDC power supplies for laptops.  Maybe a home-type flat screen TV?  In this unusual case, a small portable inverter you plug into a 12V outlet might be all you need. 
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January 07, 2016, 11:49:45 AM
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2016, 11:49:45 AM »
This may very well explain why I could not find any reference to an inverter in our 290 docs.

One would think that Aqua would have listed such a device either standard or option. :ScrChin:

Thanks CJ.
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January 12, 2016, 06:10:03 PM
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Jim Hodge

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 06:10:03 PM »
want to thank everyone for input

 


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