transom angle 1978 200CCP and 1980 246CCP

[kaptainkoz]

Hello Aquasport Guru's,
im trying to measure the transom angle on my 1978 200CCP for a motor bracket. It seems to be 15 degrees at either side of the transom and 17 degrees in the middle nearest the keel. It is safe to assume that it is built as a 15 degree transom and because its old and wet is has bowed 2 degrees in the middle?

And.... is it the same for the 1980 246 CCP... 15 degrees?

I have my eye on an old gill/armstrong/stainless bracket made by a company I cant remember.. southhold or something like that. It looks just like the older armstrong brackets that were popular on the mid 80's Grady's with the mounting bolts on an external flange. Well anyway. On the the piece it says it is for a 15 degree transom so hopefully its a match. I really like the bracket. Thanks in advance!

[kaptainkoz]

Yooo hoooo.... 36 people looked at this post so far. can anyone confirm the transom angle on a 200CCP and a 246CCP? is it supposed to be 15 degrees? Any input would be helpful.
Thanks guys!!

[seabob4]

Well, koz, this is my first look...

Transom angles on today's boats are pretty much at 14*, so I would say 15 is close enough...

I have a lot of experience with transom angles at PL and Stamas...

[flounderpounder225]

Koz,
I don't know the original angle of the transom, but the bracket you are thinking of installing, is it a full width bolt-on or just a bracket in the middle?  Have you put a straight edge along the width of the transom to see if in fact as you said the middle is bowed out.
Marc

[seabob4]

A little "fun" with brackets...

When I was with Stamas Yacht and the 32 Express was introduced, it was always intended to be offered in both inboard form, and outboard form using an Armstrong bracket.  Little Johnny Stamas actually did it right, pulled a splash of the transom, sent it over to Armstrong to pattern the bracket, it fit the side to side radius of the transom pretty damn good...

So later down the road, he decides to offer the 34 Express in O/B form also, but...neglects to send a splash to Armstrong.  So we get the new bracket, go to mount it, it's flush at each end (full width bracket), but there's a gap in the middle, growing to about 2" in the center!  "Use it", we are told, so somehow we have to pull this beetch in.  Had probably (24) 1/2" bolts across the top flange, so, with me on the inside, and my boss on the outside with a 1/2" impact, start "walking" her in, going from bolt to bolt to bolt, bringing her in a little at a time.  We finally got the gap to close...by pulling the transom away from the stringers to where the 2 layers of 3610 broke!  I mean, with a gap like that, something had to give!  Lam would send over a guy to add new glass to tie back into the transom, but now the stringers were no longer in contact with the transom...

To this day, I don't believe the problem has ever been fixed.  Sooooo, the moral of this little story is just because one might have a bracket available to them does not mean it's going to work...JMO, been there, done that...

[GoneFission]

The transom angles for the 222CCP and 246CCP should be the same, since they are about the same hull with a extra 2+ feet added for the 246.  15 degrees seems about right, but I could not find an official spec in my brochures/references.

[ncrowe]

15 degrees is correct - there have been a few guys who have ordered brackets - use a carpenters square and assume that your transom if original is bowed - I would trust the outside measurements

[kaptainkoz]

Thank you all for your input. I greatly appreciate it. Flounderpounder, it is a minimalist bracket in the middle. I do not want one with a full swim platform to get in the way of catching fish. Seabob thats quite a can of worms that bracket opened up for that boat. I have a 1978 200CCP now but I have my eye on a 1980 246CCP thats why I needed to know if they were the same. I am not going to bracket the 200 but I am scouting items for the 246CCP. Either boat needs a transom and I am going to do a pourable one, so im not worried about fixing what bowed as much as I needed to know original angle to match the bracket. I have an outbord for sale on Craigslist and if it sells before the 246 sells I am going to buy it and restore it. Its all coming together quite well. Hopefully I will be able to grab that 246. I have some great ideas and plans for it that should make for great reading and pics.