Classic AquaSport
Aquasport Model Rebuilds, Mods, Updates and Refreshes => 270/281/286/ 290 XF/Osprey Owners Group => Topic started by: SaltH2OHokie on October 09, 2012, 01:45:32 PM
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File this question in the "hypothetical" section, but does anyone have any experience pulling a 290? What kind of trailer did you use? I have a truck that will do it, and a ramp to use that will handle it...i just don't think I'd ever justify the expense of the trailer...as much as I would love to work on the boat at my house over the winter.
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Ryan,
You'll need as triple axle. Obviously brakes. I used to do a lot of pulling when I was at Proline, 29s, 32s, 35s, no big deal. We had a triple Loadmaster for the 29s and 32s, a triple Myco for the 35 (the 35 Express was a BIG 35!). We probably "borrowed" the Myco from Donzi. Tow rig was an '06 GMC 3500 dually, Duramax/Allison, would pull a house...
Find a used one and rebuild it, as a new triple gonna run close to $8K if not more. It's nice to be able to drag the boat home, so that you just have to go out to the backyard to work on it...
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Sorry, Bob and I posted at the same time AGAIN, his came in first.
I'm sure you will get a real answer, but I couldn't resist... just get one of these with a linense plate.. :mrgreen:
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Sorry, Bob and I posted at the same time AGAIN, his came in first.
I'm sure you will get a real answer, but I couldn't resist... just get one of these with a linense plate.. :mrgreen:
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/v ... VOt10Pz5cI (http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoQwtaHRQYggA1YSJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dmobile%2Bboat%2Blift%26fr%3Dyfp-t-701%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D3&w=1024&h=768&imgurl=www.ascom-italy.it%2Ffilealbum%2F87_0.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ascom-italy.it%2Fproducts-category.php%3Fidc%3D2&size=214.2+KB&name=Travel+Lift+-+Boat+Hoist&p=mobile+boat+lift&oid=4cf7b9b208f8722f2e17d0b1389bac11&fr2=piv-web&fr=yfp-t-701&tt=Travel%2BLift%2B-%2BBoat%2BHoist&b=0&ni=48&no=3&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11l6hm5is&sigb=139iq0nu4&sigi=11569hol9&.crumb=MVOt10Pz5cI)
LOL!!! Marc, you got a spy cam on me? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Well the closest fuel dock to my berth is under the shadow of Big Blue, the biggest gantry crane in the Western Hemisphere...so if I took a travel lift on the road there, folks might not notice...because it'd still be tiny compared to that sucker, which does move around the shipyard. I think its rated for like 600,000+ lbs and can move with that load under it.
My daily driver is an F-350 diesel with a 6spd manual (that "L" gear is pretty sweet when you're trying to get 10k+ pounds behind you motivated). That would pull it, but I also have access at work to an F650 and a brand new International road tractor, with a 2-5/16" ball for moving our job trailers around...so if I was just going from ramp to my house, 1 time at the end of the season, I'd probably try my truck and if that failed, I'd call the shop and see if I could borrow one of the big trucks (and a few "WIDE LOAD" banners). Might even get to take advantage of our blanket hauling permits.
Dumb question, but since the bunks would have to go outboard of the running gear, they'd have to be pretty tall (and as a result, pretty stout), right?
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Ryan,
This is the Boat Master dual axle under the Doc's 26 Pursuit I/B.
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/Pursuit%2028/100_0147.jpg)
17" wheels, 8" I-Beams, double thick ness 2 X 10s for bunks. With a F-250 short bed attached...
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh301/seabob4/Pursuit%2028/Pursuitgoinghome003.jpg)
63', front bumper to swim platform...
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That a single or twin I/B?
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Single. Not much different than twins, you want your bunks under the chines. This will reduce the trailered height of the boat. Remember, you have height as well as width requirements when towing, so don't think about the bunks being under the stringers...
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Your F-350 will pull it all day long. Your on the right track on the wide load issue too.
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Your F-350 will pull it all day long. Your on the right track on the wide load issue too.
what he said^^^
i've pulled the boat my friend captains a couple times with my F250, 35 ft intrepid walk around, could hardly tell it was there... http://www.intrepidboats.com/model-gall ... round.aspx (http://www.intrepidboats.com/model-gallery/350-walk-around.aspx)
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Reviving this question, because [fill in the blank with a long story that isn't worth telling], I'm now (slightly) more serious. My main question is...maybe I was being presumptuous when I said I had a ramp that would work...is it possible to get it up a "normal" ramp as long as the ramp is far enough into the water, or would I need the boat hauled and then set down on the trailer? Our local boat ramp was recently redone and has a pretty nice concrete ramp that is longer than I've ever needed, but I'm not sure if its got the right combo of "long/steep/deep" that will allow my boat to get on without my truck getting wet.
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Does the 290 have a bow eye?
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Does the 290 have a bow eye?
No. bow cleats and a sampson post.
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You can pull it out at a ramp if the trailer is right - be sure the bunks will not hit running gear, transducers, or other things sticking out the bottom. I used to pull my 32 Chris-Craft every winter when I lived on the Ohio River. You need a ramp that's not too steep - back the trailer down to float the boat on - tie the bow off so she won't slide back in - then use the engines to power her onto the trailer in the right position. Then use the truck to start the pull up, and have someone in the boat power the boat up with it until about half way out. Stop, check, and cut the engines once you get about half way out. The boat should be pretty well stuck on the trailer by now and you can slowly pull it on up the ramp.
Remember you've got a bunch of special rules if you are going to put this rig on a public road. You may need an over-wide permit, and depending on weight - also a CDL to drive the tow vehicle. Also, it's usually a daylight-only deal - don't try to tow it except between sunrise & sunset. Po-po loves to pull big boats over and the fines can get VERY expensive - $7,000 for a 32 footer recently here in NC.
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You can pull it out at a ramp if the trailer is right - be sure the bunks will not hit running gear, transducers, or other things sticking out the bottom. I used to pull my 32 Chris-Craft every winter when I lived on the Ohio River. You need a ramp that's not too steep - back the trailer down to float the boat on - tie the bow off so she won't slide back in - then use the engines to power her onto the trailer in the right position. Then use the truck to start the pull up, and have someone in the boat power the boat up with it until about half way out. Stop, check, and cut the engines once you get about half way out. The boat should be pretty well stuck on the trailer by now and you can slowly pull it on up the ramp.
Remember you've got a bunch of special rules if you are going to put this rig on a public road. You may need an over-wide permit, and depending on weight - also a CDL to drive the tow vehicle. Also, it's usually a daylight-only deal - don't try to tow it except between sunrise & sunset. Po-po loves to pull big boats over and the fines can get VERY expensive - $7,000 for a 32 footer recently here in NC.
Now while I'm semi-well-versed in the laws you reference, and do have a class B CDL, I'm not going to lie to you and say I'm going to follow every one to a TEE if I'm just hauling it 15 minutes up the road :twisted: Found a trailer from a 28 Albemarle twin inboard for sale on my local craigslist...wife is somewhat on board with the purchase...but I just want to make sure that if I get it, I can haul it out with a ramp. Also, I have to find some cash, but that's just a negligible detail.
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Ryan,
I've towed a bunch of bigger boats, 28s, 30s, 35s, the biggest issue is the ramp transition. Steep ramps have a very pronounced transition from the flat of the parking lot onto the ramp itself. Too steep a transition, and too long a trailer tongue, and the trailer will ground on the break point before the back end of the truck can get back far enough to pick the coupler back up again...if you know what I mean.
Our triple-axle Myco had a VERY longue, and on a low mounted hitch, she wanted to drag...
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Ryan,
I've towed a bunch of bigger boats, 28s, 30s, 35s, the biggest issue is the ramp transition. Steep ramps have a very pronounced transition from the flat of the parking lot onto the ramp itself. Too steep a transition, and too long a trailer tongue, and the trailer will ground on the break point before the back end of the truck can get back far enough to pick the coupler back up again...if you know what I mean.
Our triple-axle Myco had a VERY longue, and on a low mounted hitch, she wanted to drag...
Our local ramp is actually nice in that regard as they took advantage of the natural terrain (a hill on a creek) so the ramp sort of eases from ramp pitch, to the slightly-less-steep hill pitch. I think I'm good there, and I think on a high tide, I've got plenty of ramp to get the boat on the trailer. So now, the challenge is finding the cash, and convincing the wife that its a good use of said cash :pale:
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Just noticed, I combined long and tongue into one word...longue. And I call other people duma$$es!!! :oops: :oops: